MSI K8N Neo 2 - motherboard is "down".

I had many problems at start (e.g. Picture problems in BIOS, strange voltage etc.) but later it was ok. There was faild-safe settings in BIOS. One evening i turned computer down and I noticed that power led is strange, regular flashing. Next day i couldn't tunr it on again. All Fans are down, there is no sign of life exept for this power led. Other components are ok, I tested them in other machines, everything works correct. What happened ? I tried to reset CMOS, use other memories, no effect. Can i try something else before RMA ?

Power LED flashing is a typical indication that your PSU is in Overload. This can be from overloading it with goodies or even a power surge. Shut down the PSU on the back panel and unplug it for a few minutes. If you get it powered back up afterwards then it may have just been a surge. However if it does not repower or it does this again in the future then replace that PSU with a better one.

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Msi k8n neo platinum ps2 keyboard problem

Hi. I'm having issues with my msi k8n neo platinum motherboard. I've read about 50 posts on these forums regarding the supposed ps2 keyboard issues with recent msi boards. However none of them seems to address my current situation.
Like many others, when I power up my system the cpu fan spins for like 3 seconds then everything comes to a halt.
I tried many things to get my system to boot and the only thing that works is plugging my ps2 keyboard into the ps2 mouse port and moving the ps2 mouse into a usb port with an adapter.
It seems there's no hope for fixing the problem other than RMA'ing, but I thought I would add to the pile of complaints stacking up against the MSI boards.

if u had read the threads a little more u might have found a solution that seems to have worked 4 many - a usb keyboard usb Keyboard if u go this route dont forget to enable usb kb in bios
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Problems with msi k8n neo-2 and xfx 6800 card

is this card incompatible with the msi k8n neo-2 motherboard?
i ve got this mobo last week and when i tried to install the card to it nothing comes on screen, no beeps or nothing, ive changed the power supply, the card works fine on my old pc with both power supplies (old pc was 2500+ amd with epox 8rda+) i ve tried booting up with nothing else connected on the psu except the card itself, it still doesnt seem to work, the new motherboard works fine with my old radeon 9600 pro.
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Thats not what I read (assuming this is the same correct model)
420W double unit
DC O/P Load Max
+5V 42 Amp.
+12V 16 Amp.
+3.3V 28 Amp.
-5V 0.5 Amp.
-12V 0.8 Amp.
+5VSB 2 Amp.
Agreed that one is 420W, but is that it or not?

MSI K8N Neo DOT screws up MSI 5900XT

Greeings,
I've asked this question in the motherboard section...now I'd like to try the graphics card section to see if anyone can explain some odd behavior I've seen with the following combo:
MSI K8N Neo Plat
with
MSI 5900XT
Normally, I run the 5900XT with manual overclock:
390/700 --> 490/780.
Since the increase in GPU is higher than the increase in memory,
I prefer manual overclock to DOT on the graphics card.
Anyway, 490/780 is rock solid...sometimes even up to 510/820 is,
but I keep it at 490...
Anyway, that's all well and good, but recently I've tried using
the motherboard's DOT feature to bump up CPU and memory speed
(but which should leave video card performance unaffected, right??)
When I apply a tiny 3% DOT (again, this is on the motherboard,
so I'm not DOT-ing the 5900XT card...), suddenly the video card
will crash (or freeze for 10 seconds and then run very slowly, an
indication that it entered throttle safe mode). This is really strange.
To investigate, I did the following experiment with aquamark3:
a) no overclocking anywhere: score of about 37500
b) same as (a) but set moboard HTT/FSB from 200 to 206: 37610
Seems reasonable to get just a slight speedup, since this step
doesn't boost video card performance, which is presumably the
limiting factor.
c) same as (a) but use 3% DOT on the moboard. This has the effect
of boosting the HTT/FSB from 200 to 206, which of course should
yield about the same performance as (b). But I get about 40000 (!)
This experiment indicates that a little 3% DOT on the motherboard has
the effect of also (drastically) overclocking the video card (and to
make it stranger, the video card overclock is far more than 3%...we're
talking 3000 aquamarks which is more like a 9% graphics card overclock!!)
That's probably why a little motherboard DOT combined with
my usual 490/780 5900XT overclock froze up the video card and causes
it to enter safe mode.
BUT the question is: WHY should motherboard DOT be overclocking
the graphics card in the first place? Has anyone else seen this? Is it
intentional?

Using RivaTuner, which plots video card GPU and mem mhz in real time, I'm able to absolutely confirm that turning on either 1% or 3% DOT on the motherboard (k8n) has the effect of dramatically overclocking the video card (a 5900xt)
Strangely enough, the overclock of video card overclocks the GPU mhz but leaves the video card mem speed unchanged. Again, I'm using RivaTuner to make these claims.
I've tried with BIOS 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4b2
Examples:
gfx card set to defaults (390/700). moboard set to 1% DOT.
RivaTuner shows that aquamark3 starts at 390/700 for a few moments, then it jumps up to 429/700. Should have stayed at 390/700.
example 2: 400/700...actually runs at 441/700 (again, a 10% GPU overclock)
weird example 3: 405/700...stays at 405/700 (no GPU overclock)
example 4 (the killer): 410/700...aquamark3 freezes at frame 873 (graphics card goes into throttle mode). What does RivaTuner show?
It shows the graphics card running at 526.5, which is waaaaay over spec and is over a 28% overclock beyond what I asked for! (which was 410)
And where does the 28% come from? At least in previous runs it was either 0 or 10%, which at least I could plan around if it was consistent...but 28%?!
Bottom line: MSI K8n neo plat motherboard DOT (even at just 1% DOT) has a nasty side effect of also overclocking the GPU core. This is bad, but could be worked around if the amount was consistent. Unfortunately, the amount isn't consistent (usually 10%, but sometimes 0 or even 28%)
I'm not sure if MSI is doing this to look good in anandtech/tomshardware benchmarks, or if it's a real bug...

MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum motherboard extra firewire ports?

I'm installing an MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum motherboard into my case and although I don't need them right now, I would like to be able to access the extra firewire ports. Does anyone know the best way to get ahold of the MSI motherboard 1394 connectors for J1394_1 / J1394_2 option?
I have the D bracket with the LED's and two extra USB connectors but I don't have the firewire connector. I have USB ports and audio ports on the front of my case which I will use, but no firewire connector, but there is a place for one, just no connector/wires or hardware. Also what is the difference between those two connectors shown in the picture of the optional firewire that appears in the owners manual? They have a different shape.
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Fireware ports are faster for example external drives will be fastest 1394 rather than usb2.
there are many companies doing drive bays which can add ports to your current case see Front Port Extension Unit however you need to decide what exactly you want,
The example shown passes through case & connects to rear ports.
I prefer ones hich connect to the mobo risers leaving rear ports free, however you then have the complexity of matching the pin outs so that it works with your system. Remember it's not like tring to boot, you may not get a 2nd chance if you miswire connection. . If you can find them the best connectors are those with single pin leads, where each individual wire has its own plug so that you can match it to the mobo's pin out diagram for the particular port.
luck

MSI K8N Neo 4 CPU cooler is slowing down ?!

Hi everyone and HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL AND ALL THE BEST!!!
I have brand new MSI K8N Neo 4 mobo and something strange is going on. CPU cooler on Venice 3000+ s939 in BIOS is rotating on 2200 RPM, but when i start Win XP, Core center and Everest are showing only 1000 RPM. Cool'n'quiet is disabled in bios.
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Thanks for your help in advance.
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Hi!
Thanks Hodgie_ns for your fast reply, but it was not set up in Core Center for Cool'n'quit to slow down, it was on user setting to maximum.
Problem resolved by connecting the CPU cooler on the other connector for SYS FAN for little time, then I connected back to the CPU FAN connector. Since then, it is working on 3000 RPM all the time. Funny?! Wird?! Bug?!
Thanks and go for it!

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I originally planned to buy an additional 512 Meg Corsair value select chip and place it in Bank 3 - is this acceptable?
I assue that i would have to drop the speed down to DDR 333 from 400, could anyone tell me how much of a difference this actually makes (when playing FPS games Doom3 etc..) ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as i've been looking through both this forum and the Corsair one and i cant seem to find the answer.
thanks in advance !

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Quick Question MSI K8N NEO 4 PLAT SLI

Hey guys,i am new to this forums just needed some help, i am about to purchase a:
AMD 64 3000 VENICE
LEDTEK 6600 GT PCI EXRESS GDDR3
CORSAIR VALUESELECT 1GB RAM DUAL CHANNEL
MSI K8N NEO 4 PLAT SLI
EPOWER 450 WATT PSU
i was wondering woud i need to update the bios 1st or will the stock bios that comes with the motherboard will work with the venice. I am getting all these parts from Zip Zoom Fly, accept the PSU. Thanks for your help.

Quote from: Dream_true on 28-June-05, 08:14:40
Only BIOS 1.4 and above support Venice & San Diego. However BIOS 1.4 has shut-down issue with RAID. It is suggested that you let your reseller help you flash BIOS to the latest version 1.5. After flashing BIOS, Loading Optimized defaults is needed of course. Good Luck!
Support new features in that cpuid yes. But that is not the same as you are not able to boot/post your system
with an earlier bios .
I booted up a venice on a K8N Neo2 with an aged 1.3 bios (with no venice SD support) just fine .
If the bios supports 90nm cpu it will post .
New CPUID added means :
Shown on post (display)
And e.g new model spesific features (like e.g SSE3 ) enabled .
Use the CPUID instruction to properly identify the processor.
• Determine the processor type, stepping, and available features by using functions 0000_0001h
and 8000_0001h of the CPUID instruction.
• Boot-up display - The processor name should be displayed according to the processor name string
defined in CPUID Guide for the AMD Athlon™ 64 and AMD Opteron™ Processors, order#
25481.
Chapter 12 , Bios and Kernel developers quide for athlon 64 . 26094.PDF

MSI k8n neo platinum post problem

I just bought a 2nd hand K8N neo platinum and I can't get it to post, I have reduced down to 1 stick of ram(tried all slots) vga and cpu running out of case. I have an ultra 600 psu that certainly should be doing the buisness as everything was fine on an NF7S-V2 up until 1/2 hour prior.
On the led device it's starting 4 red then after a couple of seconds it goes 1 red 2 red 3 green 4 red which I found relates to keyboard controller. I've tried with various keyboards but no joy. I get nothing on the screen at all but that's the next stage in post.
My memory is Twinmos 3200 twin x 2 x 512 double sided, which I saw in the sticky can be troublesome.
Any body got any ideas?

i am having an almost identical problem.
First the system wont go past post,then i realised it would but only boot if i had the USB mouse unplugged (i noticed the d-brackets lights changed after i unplugged the mouse)
then i was able to get to windows, however i couldn't do much (mouse wouldnt detect if replugged, keyboard not detected - all lights off)
So i tried clearing the CMOS
now i am having the same problem, except this time i get CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded
then it tells me to press f1 to continue to del to enter setup, which i cant do since the keyboard wont work. so now im totally bamboozled
I've tried changing the PSU as well with no luck (both were 500watts)
Funny thing is, the pc having the problem is identical to the pc im writing on now, presonally i think the motherboard is not v good, since alot of people have this problem or similar to it. (and yes im using the keyboard and mouse now, that i tested on the other pc)
SPECS:
MSI k8N Neo Platinum
Powercolor Radeon 9800 Pro
AMD 64 3000+
1GB Geil Memory
Maxtor 160GB
500watt Magna Dual Fans
Will check what the D-bracket says and will report back.
ok here goes:
(with usb mouse plugged in)
1= green
2= red
3=red
4=green
(without usb mouse plugged in) - but bare in mind i cant press f1 (no keyboard) to continue else i would probably be able to get to windows.
1= green
2= green
3=green
4=red

MSI K8N NEO-FSR BIOS Flash Corrupt

So there was an updated BIOS for my motherboard version 1.8 while I had 1.7. I went ahead and updated and it went fine. But then I noticed that my CPU speed was dramatically reduced and the multiplier was set to 5.0 giving me a 1ghz CPU. While I thought maybe the CMOS needed to be cleared I went ahead and did that but to no avail I wasnt able to fix that problem. I went over to the MSI Live Update to check for a new BIOS update and it had said that I had 1.8 version while the current version is 1.7. Just a few days before it said 1.8 was the latest. Hmmm. So I went off to the MSI website to find version 1.7 and downloaded it. To my surprise version 1.8 was available on the MSI website. I used the WinFlash program to flash my BIOS. Before doing so I closed all open applications including anti-virus, browsers, chatting programs, and so forth. But the flash was going VERY slow and it stopped with unable to verify bios. This made me scared pooless. After I restarted to no surprise my computer started up with BIOS Checksum error and asked for a floppy. I didn't have a floppy drive connected at the time but the computer shut itself off automatically. So I went and connected and floppy and looked up online at the MSI website about how to recover the BIOS. I found it and for my AWARD bios i followed the procedure. But each time it detects the floppy drive and then the computer shuts itself off. Even if i have no disc inside the floppy drive it'll shut off. Is it supposed to do this? I am unable to reflash my BIOS because of this behavior. I don't know what the cause of this problem is now. Did maybe the recovery portion of the BIOS get corrupted too? Please help. Let me know if you need any more information. Thanks in advanced. My specs are below btw:
MSI K8N NEO FSR
AWARD REV. 1.8
AMD ATHLON 3200+ 754
PDP 2x512MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra
Ultra-X 500watt
WD 160GB IDE, Seagate 200GB IDE
Pioneer D-A07
Windows XP SP2, Gentoo Linux, Ubuntu Linux

Okay I tried taking unnecessary stuff out but it didn't help. I'm actually having the same problem this guy is having : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=86508.0
Hmm looks like i might be in for a new motherboard or i can try the RMA process but I dont know how long that will take. Other than that...I dont know what to do. I could buy myself a new bios flash chip but they're damn expensive and I'd rather just buy a new motherboard. On another note I noticed that when I boot up the pc and i see that it detects the floppy I immediately pressed the reset button but it'll still shut down. So it's as if there is a timer somewhere. What the hell is up with this? It also seems MSI didn't release bad BIOS releases for my board only. Seems like people with other boards are having tons of problems with the latest BIOS releases.

Unable to install windows XP på MSI K8N NEO

Hi!
I have problems installing windows XP (SP1) with MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition. After I bootet my computer (I build it myself) I noticed I had extrem cpu temperatures (65-70 degrees celcius). A quick search on the net indicated that a bios-upgrade might solve the problem, as my current bios probably showed too high temperatures.
As I had already installed windows XP i downloaded the bios and upgraded using the msi-windows-bios program. And, after the reboot my cpu temerature was 20 degrees lower (45 degrees celcius), which is more normal. But during the bootup of windows I got a blue-screen (or, actully a blue blink, just for a nano-second), and then my computer rebooted.
As the system were fairly new and didn't contain any importaint data, I decided to try to make a fresh install of winXP. But now I get a blue-screen during the installation, when the progress-bar says "installing devices", the blue screen appears when it is about 75%.
The installation of XP went fine before the bios upgrade, and I used XP for several hours without any problems at all - except the high cpu temperatur. Now my cpu temeperatur is acceptable, but XP wont install/boot.
I have tried to disable all the integraded devices (such as firewire, network, sound card etc) in the bios menu, but the XP install still provides a bluescreen during the installation of devices.
My system:
A64 3000+
1024Mb RAM (corsair value, I believe)
Samsung SATA 160Gb HD
Matrox Millenium G400 (I know it is old)
NEC 2510 DVD Burner
As I said, this is propably caused by the new bios, as it did work with the old one. I have also tried "Load failsafe defaults". Do you guys have any ideas of how to fix this? Should I (can I) downgrade my bios (I do not have a floppy drive in the computer).
.wirrum

Hi wirrum,
I see you are Swedish (the på was a give away).
I recently aquired a MSI K8N Neo2 from Komplett - where did you get yours from? maybe that have a bad batch because I am seeing the same problems as you.
I have two different problems , the same stability problems you are seeing and problems with the keyboard (ps2) not always starting up. I'm currently at Bios V1 and after seeing your problems I might just wait with V1.1 unless everything else fails.
Im considering an RMA to komplett soon and asking them for a motherboard that works (maybe from another manufacterer).
I have a decent PSU (Antec Truepower 480) and DDR400 from Kingston thats on their reccommended list, no overclocking, stable settings, I built the thing with ESD protection and carefully. Not overly impressed right now.
Some suggestions - turn off AGP Fastwrite, turn on SATA DMA access if you are using SATA. Turn off any Overclocking, move your memory around , try just one stick in DIMM 1 see if that helps.
I finally managed to get through an XP install but it took 6 hours to install. And it will occasionally stutter then shutdown entirely.
Quality..

Looking for MSI K8N Neo 'Spare part'

I have an MSI K8N Neo-FSR that I recently bought from Newegg.
Awesome board, very happy with it so far, BUT....it didn't come with the back plate! You know, the part that fits over the ports - USB, PS/2, serial, parallel, etc - that mounts to the PC's chasis?
Missing!
If anyone has a spare one that would fit a K8N Neo-FSR, I'd really appreciate them getting in touch with me! Email addy is in profile!

You can e-mail MSI Customer Service and ask them for one and they will more than likely send it to you. I bought a refurbished MSI motherboard last year and when I asked them for an I/O Shield, they asked if there was anything else I needed for my motherboard. They shipped it UPS and I got it in a couple of days (no charge to me). They're pretty good about standing behind thier stuff, so it's worth a shot.

MSI K8n Neo Platinum

Hi Guys,
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Same thing happened to me today. Thanks MSI for publishing a Betaversion of a BIOSupgrade on the Live update..
At first I figured that there must have been some fault during the BIOSflash so I downloaded the file again and repeated procedure. This time it worked like a charm and I could do all my BIOS-settings. The next restart the problem was back again though, and this time I had swapped the order for my SATA-drives to boot (to the way they should) but the system couldn't boot. So I couldn't enter neither the bios or Windows. Luckily you can shift the primary boot device by pressing F11 though, so I got out of the libido...
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Msi k8n neo plat problems

I have built 2 computers exactly the same.
msi k8n neo plat
512 corsair xms ddr 3200
8og sata maxtor
amd 64 3200
128mb ati 9800 pro
asus cd drive
When i tried to install windows xp pro on both the machines i got the same error. could not copy file. On each try the file was a different one. After hours of trying new things i found that putting the memory in slot 2 on the motherboard solved the problem, windows installed and booted up as norm. When i moved the memory back to slot 1 the computer would not boot.
I have now left the memory in slot 2 but the computer will still crash every hour.
I am sure this is something to do with the memory but not sure what the problem is.
Can anyone help.

Can anybody tell me what i should set the cpu fsb frequency to in the bios.
I just read this in the faq
What is the fsb speed of this cpu?
Depending on which FSB you are asking about: The Athlon 64's have the memory controller built in (which was previously part of the Northbridge on the motherboard) which uses up to 200MHz DDR Memory (400MHz FSB) The HyperTransport link from the CPU to the rest of the motherboard runs up to 800MHz. Just to expand on my answer... The HT link is 800MHz, but it's 16 bit in size (2 bytes worth of data per clock) the total bandwidth of the HyperTransport link is 3.2GB in total - 1.6GB sending data to CPU and 1.6GB receiving data from CPU.

Problems with 64 3200+ on MSI k8n neo platinum.

AMD Athlon64 Newcastle 3200+ AX 2200MHz/2.2GHz 512kb Boxed (with cpu-cooler!) Socket754
MSI K8N Neo Platinum nForce3 250Gb 3DDR-DIMM 5PCI SATA Raid Audio GB-LAN Firewire Socket754 ATX
Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3
Okey here it comes..
I installed everything and all seemed to work okey, until i threw in the XP install cd and began my install..
in the dos install of windows xp, (when it moves files to the hdd) it stopped and said that there was a problem with a file that were to be copied, i pressed enter to try again and the install moves on, this accurs 4-5 times and then it gives me a BIG "IRQL less or not equal".. Blue screen of death.. (it complains on different files each time i try to install xp, tried 15-20 times)
I have tried to change memory to another Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3 with no luck,
changed hdd, change gfx-card. change psu, removed all no-need pci-cards..
but still same error, i aint no expert so i might have missed something in bios or something :(
please help me if you can..

Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
That this even is suggested with mem errors , well .
You need to resolve the mem errors before doing anything else.
The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
Some things to try is entering bios and change auto settings on cpu voltage
giving it 0.5v more than default .
Set the memorys voltage to vendors max approved voltage
which for yours is 2.6v +/- 0.1v . So it's safe to set at 2.7v .
Set timings to cas 3 ,ras 3 ,trp 3 , tras 8 , CMD 2T.
Pushing it firmly down in the dimm socket , sometimes it's not all the way down there even if the plastic lockers snap in.
Disconnect all devices not needed for a windows install ,things can be added later.
Have only the hd that os is to be installed to , one cdrom , floppy , memory and
gfx card .
Disconnect USB case front connector (cause corruption and strange faults if
USBOC pin is connected)

MSI K8N Neo 2 - motherboard is "down".

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