No More Customer Support Means Lost Customers.
I and many more like me throughout the planet, have been using "Linux" for many MANY years and will continue to do so.
So, just WHY in the world would you decide to Stop Support above Flash version 11.2 ???
Do you think that will force us to STOP using "Linux"? Well guess what,...
IT WON"T.
We will simply STOP USING ALL "Adobe Products" and create NEW alternatives.
You might be able to handle lost sales from a few of YOUR "Linux" users but, so will all your customers, who have World Wide customers,.. who are also using "Linux"
So, I guess that would mean a lot more LOST revenue for "Adobe" than you may have originally thought but, hey,...
You can afford it, RIGHT?
Hi Pat and C.F.,
Thanks for your response. Maybe I did not make myself clear. If so, my apologies.
It is the millions upon millions of Linux "End USERS" (the ones who access the websites), that will cause the lost revenue over this.
They are very happy with there Operating System and will not join the Windows Clan, no matter what.
Here is Just One Example:
Cash Based Online Gaming Companies Will LOSE Revenue
Millions of Gamers who use Linux and has for many years because it works better for them than Windows when playing their online games.
As several have said, "If I have to CHANGE my Operating System just to play your games, then I guess I just won't be playing your games.", or comments somewhat similar.
I find it rediculous to think that a Company would even expect there client base (in this case, the Players) to do that in the first place, just to access and use "their" Website.
Those companies will have to decide if it is really worth it to continue using Adobe products as they watch their player base get smaller and smaller.
As we all know, water flows downhill.
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Will we see more customer support vids. in HD?
A couple months ago I noticed that 1 of the customer support videos was in HD. Will we see more in HD?
Ok, whatever translation program you ran that through did some interesting things to your post! At least we agree that personal hygiene is good.
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Lost prints order - No acceptable customer support options
You just tell me if this is the way to treat loyal customers:
12/6 (Wednesday) - placed order, selected express shipping
12/7 (Thursday AM) - received "shipment" e-mail
12/11 (Monday) - Order still did not arrive. I checked the status, and it showed that it had "shipped." But when I ran the tracking number with FedEx, it revealed that the only status entry was "Dec 7, 2006 6:01 AM Package data transmitted to FedEx." In other words, FedEx never even received the package from Apple's vendor!
12/11 (Monday-same day) - E-mailed customer support (since there's no one to call), asking that they re-ship the order. I never received a response to this e-mail.
12/14 (Thursday) - Having received no response to the 12/11 e-mail, I e-mailed again.
12/15 (Friday) - Received e-mail response (to the 12/14 e-mail), blaming it on FedEx ("It seems though, that the package was never retrieved by FedEx."), refunding my money, and saying I would have to place the order again.
Of course, this means I would place the order when I get home, after business hours, it would ship Monday (or Saturday at best), and likely not arrive until Wednesday, even with express shipping. This is too late for me to put the photos in frames and ship them out to relatives.
Again, if Apple's service either A) had a phone customer service line, or B) responded to e-mails in a timely fashion, then even with the lost shipment, I could have re-submitted the order on the 11th, still in time. Instead, I must now go print the photos at a retail photo shop.
I've been very happy with the book printing service, but the print service is terrible. My last order, in early November, took 5 days more than the estimated time to arrive.
This is not the way to keep customers.
PowerBook G4 FW800 1.25GHz SuperDrive Mac OS X (10.4.8)Hi ravirab,
I am really sorry your order seems to have fallen into the abyss. I'll be happy to hunt it out for you and find out what is going on.
Could you drop me in an email please? Use the 'contact us' form in my forum profile under the 'about me' section. You can find it by clicking on my username. Please forward any references that you have been given.
Thx
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Call 1: I spoke to them to see if I was eligible for an upgrade. It turned out they had accidentally counted a temporary phone switch to an old device as an upgrade. The representative was extremely slow minded and took over an hour to read through my notes and process what I was saying happened, consulting with his supervisor multiple times. He claimed to have noted everything and told me I had to go to a verizon store to verify in person that I was still using my original phone, and that then I would be able to get an upgrade immediately.
Trip to the store: Drove an hour only to be told by the store rep that there were NO NOTES on my account about the issue and there was nothing he could do to help me and that I'd have to call customer support again. The store was closing in 20 mins and customer support seems to take 45 minutes minimum to resolve anything, so I left.
Call 2: Asked a woman to speak to a supervisor about the guy who wasted 2+ hours of my life and gas money. She put me on hold for a long time, came back and said they were all busy right now, would I like to leave my complaint with her? I said no thank you, I will keep waiting. She said ok, and proceeded to hang up.
Call 3: Asked a different woman to speak to a supervisor, she put me on hold for a long time and then told me that since I wasn't an authorized user I could not speak to one... lol ok. Had a family member call and authorize me.
Call 4: Asked a guy to speak to a manager. He insisted on taking the complaint himself. Why would I trust someone to take a complaint about their colleague possibly sitting a few desks away when many of them have proven to be incredibly incompetent already? It sounded like we were making progress... then he hung up too.
Call 5: Asked yet another woman to speak to the manager. She demanded a reason, I told her it was to make a complaint and she told me about a dozen times that the managers would just tell her to take the complaint. I insisted, she refused... finally I threatened to close all of our accounts unless she let me speak to a manager. She said they couldn't right now since the office was closing soon, but that one would call me within 24-48 hours. I'd bet my life savings that never happens. At that point I tried to talk to her about the original upgrade issue, and she said her system had suddenly crashed and that I'd have to call back the next day... Seriously???
Absolutely unreal how horrible their customer support is. Will be switching to T-Mobile immediately.Having worked in customer service, I have some experience with this kind of situation. Reps are typically trained to make all attempts to handle complaints by themselves, because there are obviously many more reps than supervisors. They're usually REQUIRED to fully authorize the account and to get the whole situation from the customer prior to referring you to a supervisor. One of the biggest problems is that many customers think that demanding a supervisor is a way to guarantee you will get what you want. If the reason for your request to escalate isn't a valid one, the supervisor won't give in to you either.
There are plenty of times in my own experience, especially as a brand new rep out of training, that I took a long time to research and get an understanding of the issue. Yes, I wasn't moving at light speed, but that doesn't make me an idiot. It means I was trying to gather as much info s possible to try and deal with the issue. But I had plenty of customers tell me I was stupid and to transfer them to my supervisor, simply because I took longer than their patience could tolerate to get all the details I needed.
I have never had a job that I executed flawlessly day in and day out. Maybe you have and that's why you can't tolerate a person taking a little longer to wrap their head around the issue, but I'd rather doubt it.
I also don't think you will find reps who work at light speed and utilize a magic wand to fix people's issues at T-Mobile, either, but I guess it never hurts to try.
Just to clarify: I do not work for Verizon and never have. I worked for a residential phone and internet company. -
What customers can expect from BT customer support...
(In reply to the email at the bottom of this post. I am happy to discuss this with other members but please familarise yourself with the post first. I know its a long one, but I tried to make it as detailed as possible)
Hi Samia,
I don't want to give the impression that I like complaining, so I'll keep this factual until the end:
I signed up for infitiy 2 package with phone line in the first week of July. After purchasing the product online I called to arrange an engineer to visit who would install the product. During this time I asked about the £50 Sainsburys voucher promised at the time of signing up and was assured that they would arrive automatically within several weeks after my product was activated. The broadband went live during the 2nd week of July. One of my parents in a seperate address went through an identical (please understand the meaning of identical) process in all regards and after 4 weeks had not received the £100 Sainsburys voucher promised to her. So I started to contact the customer support team.
I was told by Ravi Prassad on the live chat support that the vouchers would arrive within 5 days for both addresses on Wednesday 9th October - 8 Days ago. There is a full log of this chat included after this email, people can jump to it by searching for reference "Appendix.1".
I was unhappy with his manner during the chat log, it was lackluster, using words like "okay" and "yeah" to answer qualitative questions I posed to him. So I contacted both phone support and the online live chat support again. I was speaking to Harold from accounts on the phone and Mudassir Ali on the live chat. After requesting it, both of them assured me that a manager would contact me, specifically by phone, with my mobile telephone number provided at the time. The time frame was to expect the telephone call from a manager within 24 hours. I did not receive a phone call of any nature on Thursday 10th October. The chat log with Mudassir is also available below entitled "Appendix.2".
On the morning of Friday 11th October I contacted the phone support, this time getting through to a male customer service agent by first name Kin, he had an american accent. Kin apologised for the unprofessional service that I had been given and assured he would rectify the problem. He himself was professional in his conduct and convincing with his words. His exact words were that he had sent an email off to the "corporate office" requesting that I be telephoned that same day as a priority, in light of what had happened during the previous 24 hours. I did not receive a phone call of any nature on Friday 11th October.
On the morning of Saturday 12th October I contacted the support team again by phone and eventually got through to Niscive. He and another colleague tried to further assure me by raising what they referred to as an "Enquiry Confirmation Number" ticket (******-******) and I was once again advised that I would receive a phone call on either Monday or Tuesday.
After this I left it until 6pm on the night of Tuesday 15th October before contacting support again. I got through to a CSA agent who told me over the phone that it was his 2nd day answering calls. I was put on hold often however had told him not to worry about doing so, I simply wanted the issue sorted. After confiding in his colleague several times he assured me me that the vouchers would arrive in 2 days, on Thursday (today, 17th October). He repeated this statement several times before saying that he would personally sort it out if there were any further problems. I then re-raised the question of why management had not contacted me. It took several attempts to get this question through his limited teaching and it was a frustrating experience. In the end he advised me that I could expect a phone call from management with an explanation for the events that has happened. He said the managers name was "John" and I was to expect a phone call within 30 minutes. I received no phone call of any nature on Tuesday 15th October.
I was getting pretty tired at this point, I had spent an estimated 6 hours on the phone to BT trying to solve both problems (lack of vouchers and unsatisfactory customer service) so I decided to wait until today (17th october) to see if the vouchers arrived. Unsurprisingly they did not arrive with this morning's post. Then at 11:30am I receive this email from yourself (at the bottom of this post) explaining that I have to wait a further 3 weeks (15 working days) and you attempt to give me permission to re-open the enquiry after 14 days if unsatisfied, but your wording suggested I was unable to do such a thing before hand. Well this email will be getting posted, in full, on your public forums, as well as printed off and sent to BT head office and Sainsburys (BT are tarnishing their image). I might even pop in to Belfast in person to visit the BT-tower on the Laganside with a copy to hand in in person. I will of course blank any of my own sensitive information when posting this on the forum.
During the various phone calls I experimented with different options. There is set of options on the phone to go through to a complaint line. When selecting these options you get warned by a pre-recorded voice before being notified about being placed in a queue the following; "We are very busy at the moment and it may take considerable time before we can answer your call" as opposed the message you receive on the accounts holding loop "We are very busy at the moment and apologise for the delay, your call will be answered as soon as possible". It is also worth mentioning that there is never a wait on the sales team line at all.
Time for an opinion because this service is nothing short of a joke, and completely sub-standard in compairison to my previous ISP, Virgin who always took their customers very seriously and treated them with respect. BT seem to treat theirs as if they already own the person's credit card and pin code and there is nothing the person can do. Direct debits are not so hard to cancel, so it is within BT's monetary interest at this stage to ensure I don't have wait any longer than 5 working days for the vouchers to arrive. If your system is too slow to process things that quickly perhaps one of the amazingly lazy managers can get off his/her backside and personally purchase and post out the promised voucher to this disgruntled customer.
Appendix.1All of my personal details were omitted from the original post when the moderator >heavily< edited it removing all of the proving information of what has probably been my 2nd worst customer service experience with a company so far. All of this 5-6 working days stuff is utterly useless too. I want the vouchers sent out as promised by your own customer care team SEVERAL freaking times. I'm going to go off and see if I can find more public methods of name-and-shame because BT and the majority of its employees are completely unwilling to be accountable for their actions.
Oh and the very fact that a moderator has had time to come in and EDIT my original post but not provide support on it, is another joke to add to the book of "BT GOT YOUR MONEY FOOL HAHA".
Just look at these links:
Guardian Newspaper:
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/sep/28/bt-broadband-missing-sainsburys-voucher
-I'll be emailing them the transcripts, with all names & codes omitted to respect privacy, but everything else intact.
£100 Voucher not honoured:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=63426257
Waiting for 158 Days!!!:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=3940163
-Atl least we can enjoy the fact that this is a legal breach of contract and thus all "18 month" terms are out the window.
It's in the post:
http://community.bt.com/t5/Bills-Packages/50-Sainsbury-Voucher-in-the-post/td-p/494455/page/13
Still Waiting:
http://community.bt.com/t5/Bills-Packages/Sainsbury-s-Voucher/td-p/457413
The Wrong Side of 50:
http://wrongsideof50.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/why-you-want-to-avoid-sainsburys-gift.html
These problems have been plaguing customers for over a year. -
Sony repair center lost my phone. Customer support is hanging up on me.
I really hope someone can help me or at least point me in the right direction. I sent in my xperia z3 d6603 for repair over 3 months ago. 2 weeks later I was informed the repair was complete and the phone was being shipped back to me. A week later, having still not receieved the phone, I checked the tracking number and saw that Sony had contacted UPS and requested the phone be returned to them. This is the last I ever heard of the phone. I called support and was told I would be contacted by the repair center. I was never contacted. I called several more times and was told someone would contact me. I still have not been contacted. I still call the support center every few days in the hope someone can help me. The support reps either lie and tell me the phone is in the mail and I will receive a tracking number which never comes, or they simply put me on hold until I am disconnected. I don't know who else to contact. This has been going on for over 3 months now and its starting to seem like I will never get my phone back. I don't know who else to contact since customer support doesn't seem to have the ability to resolve this issue.
I'm sorry to hear that but if UPS lost the phone I believe there's an insurance that will cover this issue. Also it'll be wise to contact BBB http://bbb.org/
and if you contact Sony Xperia Care again, make sure to try to do it through live chat.
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/contactUs/
@johnp
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." Kurt Cobain (1967-1994) -
Posted the entire text from the error window, when trying to update, using the normal NON-TECHIE way to update any and all Adobe CC products, via the Creative Cloud updater installed when Adobe Creative Cloud subscription was purchased when first offered.
The following occurs, ad nauseam:
There was a problem updating InDesign CC
For more information see the specific error below.
Update Failed
Download error. Press Retry to try again or contact customer support.(49)
Here's the crux of my frustration:
(1) Customer Service is NOT contact-able, to receive LIVE help.
(2) There is NO way for me to mitigate this "Download error", being a student learning InDesign, and NOT in any way capable of tweaking folders/files here and there.
Therefore, the real question:
Given that a significant number of subscribers are having the above referenced issue with attempting to download the current update for InDesign, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO, in order to get our contractually paid-for updates to our legally and contractually paid-for Adobe software, specifically in my case, InDesgin's current update?
Please, NO TECHNICAL mumbo-jumbo which most likely will cause the overwhelming majority of users, like me, to seriously corrupt their computer files, but rather an honest, straightforward "what to do" from real CS/Engineers working for Adobe, as to how to FIX this issue, period.
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UPDATE:
Here is a way in which I think I was able to "update" my InDesign CC application:
(1) Sign-In to your Adobe Account
https://www.adobe.com/
(2) Click on the MENU icon
(3) Click on the product InDesign icon
Your browser should display the page for Adobe InDesign CC
https://www.adobe.com/products/indesign.html?promoid=KLXLU
(4) Click on the Download icon,
Your browser should now display the page to download InDesign,
https://creative.adobe.com/products/download/indesign
(5) a Pop-Up window should open, and display:
Launch Application
This link needs to be opened with an application.
with the first option to select being the CreativeCloud(URIHandler)
(5) Select this application and click OK.
What happened when I followed steps (1) thorugh (5) is that:
(a) InDesign CC(2014) was installed,
(b) InDesign CC, updated, and then
(c) InDesign CC(2014), also updated.
Why this all worked, is a mystery to me.
Looks like a separate, "new" version of InDesign, InDesign CC(2014), was installed, the existing "old" InDesign was updated, and then the newly installed Indesign CC(2014) was further updated.
A BIT MORE, when I launched my InDesign CC app, and checked to see if there were Updates Available, there in fact was an Adobe InDesign CC 64 bit (9.2.2) update.
I clicked on UPDATE and my "old" InDesign CC app was "successfully updated."
FURTHER INFO: I may have neglected to list some important info ... OS: Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center, 64-bit
Confused, I am able to launch BOTH of these apps, and hopefully I may use one of these versions of the InDesign CC app, to do some InDesign work.
Will keep y'all posted!
Message was edited by: Richard Yapkowitz, about an hour after I first posted this issue.Jackdan error 49 indicates the installer was unable to access a critical file or directory. You can find additional details at Error downloading Creative Cloud applications - http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/error-downloading-cc-apps.html.
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I already have creative cloud Photography plan and just want to add dreamweaver, is this possible? Alternatively, I have tried purchasing the Complete — For CS Customers but it asks me to contact customer support and then sends me through to the forums!!
yes.
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I am trying to redeem my iTunes account with a gift card and it keeps coming up with "the Gift certificate or prepaid card code you entered has not been properly activated. Please contact iTunes customer support for assistance" what does this mean?
It all comes down to contact iTunes customer support for assistance.
iTunes Customer Service Contact - http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact.html > Get iTunes support via Express Lane > iTunes > iTunes Store -
I have been trying to update Bridge CC and it immediately goes to update failed - learn more which I click on and all it give me is download error. retry or contact customer support(49). I have retried about 5 times now. All other updates finished successfully,
Hi Dennis,
Please refer to the thread below where this issue has been addressed:
Bridge Update failed customer support(49)
Updates failing from CC errors U44M1l216 and 49 - anyone else getting these?
Installation succeeded but a patch failed
Regards,
Sheena -
While trying to download indesign i get a message " installation failed" then i click the learn more then it says unable to extract to temp directory , please contact customer support (EX11)
Creative Cloud Error Codes (WIP) | Mylenium's Error Code Database
Mylenium -
My legally licensed CS6 has stopped working and reverted to trial mode. I paid a bundle for this and don't care to pay more to keep the software I legally own. There seems to be no customer support for this anymore, what do I do?
The only answers I found were things like:
Upgrade to CC or You're out of luck.
This is not okay.
Please Help!"Similar" problem here. I have bought a new PC, and want to install my precious CS5.5 to the new system.
All I get is an "illegal serial number" message. Even though I deactivated on the old pc and even though I copy the serial (for the pc version) from my official products page (or whatever that page is called)...
That's when the ordeal started to get someone at Adobe to figure out what is wrong.
No voice support for my "old" version. 2011? Old? Come on?!
The chat support is a Turin test, with no solution whatsoever.
The websites linked to in the final "chat" lines which should answer my questions are utterly useless.
So last attempt: I try overhere... and add my questions to you, OP...
Note that the only way in which I can get a fast human reply is by calling the number for buying the new CC! Shame on you Adobe! -
Lost Playbook Painful BUT Customer Support Eases Pain
I don’t know who can communicate this up and down your Service Support management but please make it happen.
If anyone has experienced the theft of your playbook, you know it can be real emotional event.
I had mine stolen last week. I did have the security turned on, password protected. After 5 tries the playbook erases all data and becomes a zeroed out device. You can re-load all data and settings IF you backed it up, BlackBerry Desktop. I also had my serial number (kept the original box) my Blackberry ID.
All that being said, I don't want anyone to benefit from a new Playbook so I called BlackBerry Customer Support, 877-644-8405.
I was connected without a long wait and the Customer Rep professionally and quickly took all my information. She assured me that once the information was registered no one would be able to register this device nor receive any application downloads.
Further I was called in less than 10 minutes by another Customer Representative who sent me a verification email and asked for confirmation of S/N and other data. I sent that email back to him and was told that he would call me back later this week. Even better, they will call me if Anyone attempts to register or download any apps.
Now despite anyone's personal feelings about RIM, Playbook or Blackberry this is the kind of professional, business-like service one would expect from BlackBerry . I have another Playbook ordered and will have a new device this week.
If your device is stolen or lost, BlackBerry Customer Support will react quickly.
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Loss of customer support control, does this mean identity theft risk?
does anyone have any comments as to whether the loss of control of the customer service portion of adobe will have any affect on personal information, I was worried if my perosnal information might be compromised
I was very frustated with the fact that I could not get anyone on the telephone regardless of how long I waited, I believe if my phone battery would have lasted it would just sit there for days with no answer. That made me think that the company has no control over what it is going on in their customer support division, that there is no way to intervene to address the problem. It just seems then that any information available to customer support is not completely under the control of adobe systems since they have no control over what is happening in customer support. I would like to assume that I am completely wrong and perhaps delusional from exposure to so much horrible wait music on the phone but it made me wonder about it, afterall the information is being accessed in another country and who knows what type of employee screening actually occurs, just a thought anyway.
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I don't want to start a discussion. I just want a phone number for customer support. Is that really impossible?
Alacatr I am sorry you are facing difficulty contacting our support team. I would recommend that you utilize a different web browser, computer, smart phone, or tablet, to contact our support team at Contact Customer Care.
If you are receiving a download error then there may be an issue with the stability of your Internet connection. This could also affect your ability to contact our support team. I would recommend reviewing Error downloading Creative Cloud applications - http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/error-downloading-cc-apps.html for information on how to resolve download errors.
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