Process industry scenario
Hi all,
here in my scenarion, i got prodcution plant and R&D. in R&D production is going depends on sales indent.its prodcut is Bio fertilizer.one resource :fermenter.
Machinary is fermenter.and one packing machine
others are manual work.
How can i define in sap .whether as seperate plant ..or one resource.
thanks
s.suresh kanna
Definition regarding the plants are not only based on resources but also in many logistic aspect, as inventories, transfer and deliveries.
If fermenter and packing machine are in the R&D section , and this is only related to prioduction,
I would create them in the same Plant but under a diferent Resposible or Planning Group. So you can follow the performance of this area separately.
Let us know if this can be helpful.
regards
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Dear Gurus,
The is a Process Industry, Chemical Manufacturing Unit, which does the following sequence of Operation to get the Semi finished material.
1) Acid, TC, and Catalyst are 3 Raw materials
2) Acid, TC and catalyst after being put into reactors, they Undergo 2 Phases. Crude and Distillation
At crude phase, Crude is Produced. But they dont want to do confirmation of crude.
At Distillation stage, Main Fraction(MF), a semi-finsihed material is Produced
But at the distillation Phase, 2 more, Products are produced in conjugation to MF.
These 2 Products are Lower Fraction(LF) and Residue.
When these LF and Residue are produced, they again put into reactor and some qty of TC is added to achieve MF which again produces some portion of LF and Residue. And these cycle goes on.
They keep these process continuing.
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As I understand that Co-Products cannot be subjected to movt type 261 and same i have tested in system. So, concept of Co-Product is not applicable here either with Recursive BOM application.
The solution which we have found here is that Client will make one of BOM of Acid+TC+ Catalyst
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Hi,
QM Expert ,I am from automobile sector, I want to know the detail requrement of SAP QM in process industry,as per my knowedge only shelf life scenario is different other than all processes of QM ,please give the detail Scenario of relating QM in process industry in detail
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Adityahi
QM in process industry can have a significant difference from Normal Automobile or Production system.
It can be
1.Batch manegment can form significant part of Process Industry.
2.Recurring inspection is also huge part of Process Industry
3.Inspection points along with sample drawing procedure in Inspection planning can be used in process industry.
4.Shelf life material as you mensioned is significant.-->stability study
5.Instead of Production orders Process order are used in Process industry.
These are more or less can be observed in any process industry.
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We have one scenario ,company is in process industry,they are manufacturing MANGO pulp,babana powder.
The problem is that company itself having mango trees and banana trees and they are using these mangos and bananas for their finish product means mango and banana used as a raw material.
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How about maintain seperate plant for manufacture part. And Process as separate plant.
By this you can capture manufacturing expenses like all maintenance, cropping, fertilization expenses at PLANT 1.
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Production of mango in process industry
Hi,
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The problem is that company itself having mango trees and banana trees and they are using these mangos and bananas for their finish product means mango and banana used as a raw material.
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Note that these are seasonal fruits,so how they will plan beacuse water and fertilisers will consume through out period and production will happen in season only.
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See in your case, the mango fruit become mango pulb after some operations and the addition of some thing correct.
so it have the bom and the routing obviously.
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you can add the water and fertiliser in planning or you can maintained as the comsumable materials.
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Rework process for Customer returns in process Industry.
Hi Gurus,
We are working in a process Industry. The process is here we do
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MRP run
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I am going to implement SD first time in airline industry, I think it is going to be like service industry scenario,
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Sadanand.Hi,
Process Flow
This scenario includes the following process steps:
Creating a service notification
Changing the service notification (optional step)
Check the task list
Creating a sales order
Change the sales order
Changing the service order
Time recording
Confirming time to the service order (optional step)
Confirming the materials used
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Key Points
Service Order
Definition
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Header data
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Component data
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