Production Order in REM

Experts,
I found that even if the material (Fert) is having REM scenario set up, it is possible to create production orders for the same material.
One of the material is having MTS REM scenario for which production is driven by planned Orders(run schd). Periodic settlement is done.
By mistake production Order was created for the same material.Goods receipt/issue is also done for this production Order.
How to restrict the system for not allowing to create the Production Order for REM scenario?
Thanks.
Suresh

Please note that Routing is required to create a Production order as the std setting in production ordere dependent parameter-OPL8.
Any way my sugestion is please delete the production order types if you are not using production order types.
In case if you are using production order for other materials then
goto OMS4
create a status - XX , with production PO header message = E,
Assign this status in baisc data1 of the material - X material status (for which system should not create a Production order)
You will get following message
In-house production is not intended for material XXX status cannnot produce with descreet manufactreing
Message no. CO 050
best of luck

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Regarding REM, I know how to set it up; however, we need to have Production Orders in place in order to drive the requirements of components.
With REM, how would you know which components you need to purchase? Would you need to then use Re-order point planning or fixed forecasts in order to purchase them in time?
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Can we manually create a planned order in repetitive manufacturing? I know that in case we run MRP , then planned order for finished is created with order type 'PE' due to which it cannot be converted to production order.
I dont want to run MRP , still can i create a planned order manually with the same order type 'PE' ? I tried in MD11, but not getting option to chose PE as it is not available in F4 of planned order profile.
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Regards.

Dear,
You cannot create a planned order with PE order type manually, because a planned order of REM related material gets order type "PE" only when it is assigned with a Production Version.
So achieve manual creation of REM Planned order with PE type with the following options,
I - Using MD11 transaction create a planned order with LA type and assign a suitable REM related Production version to the planned order during creation itself, now this order would automatically become "PE" order type on saving the order.
2. In the planning table using MF50, you can directly create a planned order for a production line using F7 key.
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Hi Raymond,
If the suggestion of REM does not work for your requirement, then take the help of your ABAPer use one of the below BAPI's & create a Z prog. for creation of order as required.
1. Prdn order frm plnd order -> BAPI_PRODORD_CREATE_FROM_PLORD
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ppgurus
can any body explain how to create a production order by mrp run
ie
sysytem should create the production order directly while mrp run not PLANNED ORDERS
what settings i need to do for this plz explain
urgent requirement
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HI
you gave a good way to solve the problem
if it is a make to stock REM
i need not convert planned order to production oreder right
plz suggest in that scenario where i need to do availability check
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to be assigned for availability check
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We are using REM scenarios. But we need to use the Production order for some material in the same plant where we are already using REM.
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As we know that In Repetitive Manufacturing, components are often staged at the production line without reference to a particular order.
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Hi Senthil,
Good afternoon and greetings,
Made to stock in production term is called as Repetitive Manufacturing and the cost object for the same would be Product Cost Collector. The Product Cost Collector doesnt have the concept of closing fully basically because the product cost collector would be a replica of the material itself.
In your case, a rework for production order is applied through by adding an additional work centre in the routing called REWORK. Re-opening a production in a different period may lead to confusion basically because the planned cost at the time of creating the order say before 3 months would have been £100 per PC. Now the standard cost estimate is £125 per PC and reopening the order will redetermine the planned cost again and when it is settled it will hit your profitability very badly because the variance would be £25 + rework cost. Thereby it is advisable to use the concept of standard REM.
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1. Move the material from one code to another rework code
2. Create a new routing with REWORK work centre for the rework material code.
3. Create a production order for the rework material code
4. Transfer the material from rework code to main material code.
5. Settle the production order for the rework material code and thereby your P&L would be intact for the additional cost involved on the Rework.
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In production order backflush how components select valuation type

Hi,
i am using backflush in production order planning where components have valuation type. when i stage them i give the valuation type. but when i confirm a operation the backflush is giving problem.
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Madan,
During MF60-pull list where exactly do you enter the valuation type?
Try to understand the concept?
Let us say i have storage loc A and production storage loc B.
Now in production order/REM order you have entered the storge loc as B and you have stock in A.
After running MRP and when you goto MF60, for that component, system will create storage loc order during staging.
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Hi,
REM manufacturing is simpler way to book the production.
What is needed for REM is first question.
1) REM profile
2) Material on REM with this profile and REM tick
3) Have normal BOM and routings/ rate routings and work center
4) Define Production Version
5) Define Product Cost Collector on which all costs are booked whenever you do your confirmation thro MFBF
Having defined these master, once you run MRP you get planned order of PE type. It was earlier also callled as RS i.e Run Schedule.
By using MFBF, backflushing transaction can book the production. REM is period based type of production booking unlike discrete where you make a production order of particular material for some dates, it is lot based production booking.
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in HELP.SAP.COM is the answer.
Product Cost Collector
Definition
Cost object in Product Cost by Period that collects the periodic actual costs incurred in the production of a material. When you use a product cost collector, the product is the main cost object.
Use
Product cost collectors are independent of the production type. This means that you can collect actual costs on product cost collectors in the following production environments:
In order-related production (that is, when you are using production orders) when you want to analyze the costs by period rather than by lot
In process manufacturing (that is, when you are using process orders) when you want to analyze the costs by period rather than by lot
Repetitive manufacturing
In repetitive manufacturing you always use product cost collectors as cost objects.
Product cost collectors are available from Release 4.5A onwards. In earlier releases, the costs of repetitive manufacturing materials were collected on production cost collectors. From Release 4.5A onwards, production cost collectors are converted into product cost collectors. For information on the conversion process, see Converting Production Cost Collectors into Product Cost Collectors.
Order splits for production orders
When you split production orders, the costs for the parent order and child order are allocated to the same product cost collector.
See also: Order Splits in Cost Object Controlling
Constraints
Product cost collectors cannot be used for the following objects and production environments:
Manufacturing orders that settle to a sales order item if you are using a nonvaluated sales order stock in sales-order-related production
Sales-order-related production with a valuated sales order stock, except in repetitive manufacturing environments
Engineer-to-order environments
Manufacturing orders that are part of a collective order
Joint production
Joint production is a production process that yields two or more products in a single production run. In the Product Cost Controlling component (CO-PC), there are a number of special processing requirements in joint production environments regarding Product Cost Planning (CO-PC-PCP) and Cost Object Controlling (CO-PC-OBJ).
In shop floor control, a manufacturing order (usually a process order) is created to manufacture co-products. In the manufacturing order, co-products are carried on the order items.
In Cost Object Controlling, actual costs are collected on the header of the manufacturing order. At the end of the period, the actual costs on the order header are distributed to the individual order items. Work in process and variances are calculated at the order item level. The order items are then settled.
Integration
In joint production, the system normally accesses master data of Production Planning for the Process Industries (PP-PI) such as the master recipe and materials list, or master data of Production Planning (PP) . To distribute the planned and actual costs to the co-products, the system uses the apportionment structure that can be specified the material master record or in the manufacturing order itself.
Terminology
Co-product
You specify that a material is a co-product by selecting the Co-product indicator in the MRP view or costing view of its master record.
Fixed-price co-product
A fixed-price co-product is a special type of co-product.
Primary product
You specify that a material is a primary product by selecting the Co-product indicator in the MRP view or costing view of its master record.
Process material
A process material is a nonstock material that is used in the R/3 System to represent the process by which co-products are produced. Instead of the primary products, you can enter a process material in the recipe header and in the order header.
Process materials have material type PROC.
By-product
A by-product is a product that is produced incidental to the production process of other products. You enter by-products in the material list of a primary product or process material with a negative quantity.
You do not set the Co-product indicator in the MRP view or costing view of the master records of by-products.
Intra material
Intra materials only exist temporarily between two processing steps. Intra materials appear in the material list as items of category M, but are not costed.
If the process is interrupted because of a malfunction, however, intra materials may have to be transferred into inventory. In this case they are valuated with a price in the material master that is selected through the valuation variant for the valuation of goods received.
Intra materials have material type INTR.
Circulating material
You can specify whether the cost of a circulating material should be included in the material list. The system selects a price for the circulating material from the costing view of the material master record.
If the circulating material is flagged as relevant to costing, the material costs appear in the itemization twice: once with a plus sign and once with a minus sign. The balance is the material input costs.

Manual selection of production version in REM scenario.

Hai gurus,
I discrete manufacturing we can several production versions and we can select the same manually
when we convert planned order to production order. Like this whether it is possible in REM scenario
to select the production version manually, if so what is the settings and procedure.
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Are you not able to select the production version in MFBF manually ,assuming if you have more than
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PCC vs Production Order Based Costing

Hi,
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Thanks in advance.
Regards,
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Hi,
PCC is product cost collector which is used in mostly REM process.
1. Here you have to creat the product cost collector mean sthe cost is based on period, when u create PCC you are creating the priliminary cost means the quanity strucure costing considering BOM , activity prize and the cost from costing sheet i.e admin cost, etc .
2. In product cost collector the the cost of document posted in backflush is posted periodiclly. For that u have to run standard cost run i. CK11N and CK24. monthly.
3. but in Production oredr or Process order thre is no PCC instaed of PCC the cost is settle with the settlement profile defined in OPL8 i.e order type dependent parameter SPRO.
4. Each prd ord is REL,CNF and TECO when the status is TECO means the logistic point of view the order is complet now ready to costing .
5 Then FI consultant settle this order
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Want know the relation ship an production order

Hi Friends,
here at our client location the production order process has been changed to REM
now the work center are not coming in the reports outputs because there is no
production order for that pls give information how to get the work center with out
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OPL8..
Choose the relevant option for routing selection from below as appropriate.
Rtg selec. Short Descript.
0          No routings or reference operation sets to be used
1          Always reference operation set (no routings selected)
2          Routing/ref. op. set mandatory (automatic selection)
3          Routing/ref. op. set optional (automatic selection)
4          Routing/ref. op. set optional (manual selection)
5          Routing/ref. op. set mandatory (manual selection)
6          Routing mandatory (automatic selection)
7          Routing mandatory (manual selection)
8          Routing optional (manual selection)
9          Routing optional (automatic selection)

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