Rebate Agreement Scenario

Greetings all,
I am planning to implement Rebate agreement in our system.
There is a scenario that one customer is calculated in over lapse period,
One for quarterly period and another in annually period.
For example, sales for customer A will have rebate 2.5% for minimum 300 tonages/quarter, but if one achieves 1200 tonages/year, there will be another rebate 1.5%.
Such scenario, is it possible using standard rebate in SAP?

It is possible.. Just think about this way.. You create 5 rebate agreement.. No1 is valid from 1 Jan to 31 Mar, No2 is from 1 Apr to 30 Jun, No3 is from Jul to Sep, No4 is from Oct to Dec and No5 is valid from 1 Jan to 31 Dec..
Condition in No1 to No4 is set to 0299->0 and 300 ->2.5%.. You settle No1 at Q1 end, No2 at Q2 end.....
Condition in No5 is set to 01199->0 and 1200 ->1.5% and you settle No5 at year end..
Edited by: Ryan_Liu on Dec 28, 2011 9:50 AM

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Hi lvshaolong,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
I believe I have not misunderstood the business scenario.
But may I request you to tell me the process steps for the senario you told which is "Normally , you define condition with highest node in hierachy and then you can refer to it when you do biz with the lower nodes". How vendor rebate process takes place this scenarion (I mean process flow).
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Proposal:
Setup your rebate condition as amount = 0 and accruals = $
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Are you 100% positive about this legal issue in your business environment?
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Thanks Veera !!
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