Refurbished vs. Non Refurbished

I see there is a Refurbished Apple LED Cinema Display (24" flat panel) for sale at $699. What's the problem with buying Refurbished compared with new? Also, what apple care do you buy for this?
Thanks

I just bought a refurbished 24" Cinema Display. The first display had a dead pixel but otherwise looked great. They replaced it no problem because it was within the return window, but I had to go the Apple Store to get it looked at and then ship it back and wait for the replacement. While I was at no point concerned they'd say, "It's just a dead pixel," I was definitely aware it was possible.
The replacement I just received was an absolute disaster. There were 11-15 "anomalies" on the screen one of which was a cluster of dead pixels almost dead center on the monitor. The aluminum frame had a huge nick out of the corner. AND there was a whining/grinding noise coming from inside the unit - not subtle in any way. Seriously?!!!
If a friend had offered me that monitor for free, I probably would have said thanks, but someone else will probably want it more than I do. How did that monitor make it through Apple's "QA" process and sold "like new" to a customer who just dropped close to $700 for it. The more I think about it the more agitated I get.
I called Apple Online. The first person I spoke with said I wouldn't have to take it the store to get it looked at. The second said I'd have to take it to the store to get it looked at, but that they'd probably just hand me a new monitor. I protested to no avail that I shouldn't have to go the store and they would contradict him. He insisted several times that some amount of dead pixels is within their specs. So, back to the store I went.
The tech at the store agreed that there was an issue but said there was nothing he could do for me there, noting that the online rep should never have told me he could . . . and clearly there never will be anything he can do there . . . EVER - no matter what happens to the monitor it will always be something I have to deal with through the online store. After this initial two week period, that means the shipping costs for the fix will be my responsibility as well.
I ordered another replacement, but I'm hesitating on it. Between the phone calls, the trips to the Apple Store, the trips to FedEx, the waiting for the monitors, the waiting at home for FedEx to deliver and the obvious agitation . . . maybe I'm unlucky, but that last monitor I got - that wasn't a minor flaw - that monitor was a total scam.

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    Spellpizza wrote:
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