Running Forms Https (forms 10g with A/S and webcache)

I'm trying to implement Credit Card processing for applications in our agency. The environment is in the subject. There will be two types of applications that need to process credit cards:
1. Users coming in through our external website running java applications.
2. Internal users running Oracle Forms (against another App Svr deployment)
I'll be using a payment gateway accessible via a web service to authorize the card. I can talk to this via a java w/s client proxy w/o a problem. Here's the problem though:
I've been told that when forms are running https, ALL forms running on the application server, regardless of application will now be running https. I'd like the Credit Card entry Oracle Form to be running https, but don't see how this affects all the other forms in our environment (hundreds of them). Can't one screen (http) call a CC screen (this one only running https), and they can enter the card into that? From the reading I've done this should be possible.
I'm not the Application Server admin. This is what I've been told, and I cannot configure the environment. I've been told that Forms will now have to call a JSP CC entry screen that I write and that screen would now invoke the web service. Of course, my concern is that the oracle form and the jsp screen are now asynchronous, and one won't be able to tell when the other is done (unless I poll on the form, or go the route of PJCs and javascript - I've seen an article for this already --- HOWEVER, this was shot down as well.)
My question boils down to:
1. Can I run all my other forms http, and then this CC screen https (via a web.show_document), and then it can hit the web service directly via a java imported client proxy rather than me writing extra methods, and another screen/conf page that's specific to forms users?
[I need to run forms https since the default 40-bit encryption is not enough.]
Here are my related questions/threads to this one:
Forms Client Side Encryption and invoking external Secure Service via URL
Forms Client Side Encryption and invoking external Secure Service via URL
encrypting creditcard for "in-transit"
encrypting creditcard for "in-transit"
loadjava sunrsasign.jar
loadjava sunrsasign.jar
As always, help is very much appreciated, and a very big thannks for any answers/suggestions.
Eric

Eric,
You may want to ask your question in the App Server forum.

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