Scale values in Sales Rebate Agreements

Hi All
We are trying to set up rebate agreement reporting for our client. They use both Purchase related rebates (MEB1) and Sales rebates(VBO1). In the purchase related rebate screen(MEB3) -> Business volume data allows a drill down into scale income. But the same is option is not visible in sales related rebates (VBO3)
-> Sales volume data i.e. I can't see the scale values in the sales volume data report even though I have defined scales for my condition type.
Is there another way of seeing the scale values or is there some config missing? Please help as we are at our wit's end about the difference in functionality.
Regards
Salil

Such functionality does not exist in VBO3, sorry!

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