Scheduling in collective order
I need some hint on a problem I'm facing here...
We are using collective orders(Proc. E- SP. 52) and no scheduling parameters are defined in our workcenters...
When I create a production order on the top level (finish good) for 10/ 31, the component that has an In-house production time =1 scheduling margin key = 000 is scheduled to finish 11/03
I tried using "backwards" scheduling, "backward in time" scheduling...
I would like the component to have start date 10/30 and finish date 10/31
Any ideas?
If I remove the in-house production time, the finish date of the component is the same as the finish good...
Luc,
Check with Route time for the component. It is likely the route time is higher than 1 day. Production order schedules on route time & hence likely the order has a finish date of 11/3.
If your only looking at the planned order planning then it will take the material master inhouse production time. Also please check if you have 31 Oct as a non working day in your factory calendar. If yes then it is likely 1 & 2 Nov( SAt/Sunday) are non working too & hence the order plans to finish on 11/3( monday).
That also explains if you remove inhouse time, system takes 0 days & has finish date as 10/03.
Hope this gives you with some hint about what might be going on in your system.
Thanks,
Ram
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Collective Orders
Use
In a collective order, planned orders or production orders are linked to one another over several production levels. Each order in the collective order has its own order number. If subassemblies are produced directly for superior orders within a production process, without physically entering the warehouse, it is useful to have a representation via collective orders.
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Prerequisites
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· Co-product
· By-product
· Alternative item with strategy 2
· Alternative item with usage probability 0
· Discontinued
· Follow-up material
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Features
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· Integrated view of a production process
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· Separate order number for every order
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· No placements in storage or removals from storage between production levels
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· Business functions simultaneously for several orders
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¡ the requirements quantity of the directly produced component is automatically changed.
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· Reading master data
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Use
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I have maintained all these settings.
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Edited by: Pavanakumar on Dec 24, 2009 4:25 PM -
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