Scheduling problem in planned order.
Hi all,
I have a problem in scheduling of planned orders.
I had mentioned the following parameters.
1. Available capacity in the work center as 06:00:00 to 12:00:00
2.Set up time is 10mins in the routing.
3. The planned order qty is 100 nos.
While doing manual scheduling in planned order, the system proposes the start time as 11:50am and finish time as 12:00am. But as per calculation, for 100nos x 10 mins = 1000 min = 17 hrs.
But the system calculated 10 mins for 100 nos.
Is there anything i am missing , due to which the system is doing wrong scheduling.
With regards,
Afzal
dear afzal ,
system is taking setup time only for first piece you are machining and for rest other 99 piece its not considering the setup time.
Check in the formula you are using if its defined as only to consider one time the setup activity or its taking piece wise/quantity wise.
Check and change it , it will solve your problem.
Hope it helps you.
regards
Ritesh
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Message no. MD427
Diagnosis
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Reward point if useful
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