SEPA Payment - Bank Charges borne by Self OR Payer
We are doing a simple SEPA payment using Idocs.
As you know default PSD setting is now "SHA".
Does anyone know how payer can set the default charges to be borne by "OUR" i.e the company should bear charges rather than being shared between beneficiary and payer?
E.g when I make a vendor payment of $100, the bank automatically deducts $10 and pays the vendor $90.
Instead I want to pay the vendor $100 and I want the bank to charge me $10 directly.
Is there a way using F110, Idocs etc - note I dont want to inflate the invoice to $110 and pay the vendor $100 etc - I am looking for an automatic method in which SEPA is set to "OUR".
Here is the user exit EXIT_SAPLIEDP_002 -> to add E1IDKU4 segment to internal table
IF lw_reguh-ZBUKR = 'CCODE' AND lw_reguh-ABSBU = 'CCODE'.
lw_edidd-SEGnam = 'E1IDKU4'.
lw_edidd-Sdata = ''.
APPEND lw_edidd TO edidd_table.
ENDIF.
EXIT_SAPLIEDP_902 -> to define conditions on that segment
IF lw_reguh-ZBUKR = 'CCODE' AND lw_reguh-ABSBU = 'CCODE' .
lw_e1idku4-fcaregul = '003'.
ELSE.
lw_e1idku4-fcaregul = '002'.
ENDIF.
lw_edidd-sdata = lw_e1idku4.
MODIFY edidd_table FROM lw_edidd TRANSPORTING sdata.
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Dear Forum Memebers,
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