Sheduling by Milestone Operations

All, I have a scenario where my customer would like to calculate the lead time to produce materrial based soley on the length of time which is entered on Milestone operations. Currently durations are maintained at each operation and we do not want to remove this as it is important for costing. A simple example is below;
Step

Hi Gordon,
What I have understood from your requirement is that you wish to use Non - Milestone operation only for costing and not for scheduling but the scheduling for these operation must be done in milestone operation.
I suggest you follow the below steps.
1. Remove the NON Milestone Operations from scheduling in control key.
2. In Mile stone Work center add another standard value key as wait time or previous operation time. (I assume u will have space to add another standard value key.)
3. Please assign the control key meant for scheduling in this work center.
4. Please note the activity type assigned in this standard value key must be dummy and unit cost must be negligible to avoid costing duplication. you can contact finance or costing team in this possibility.
5. In routing, you can use the new assigned standard value key to assign the total time taken by operation before this milestone operation. Hence the scheduling could be done in mile staone operation and costing will not be duplicated.
OR
Using Queue time means you will have to maintina std. queue time and mini. Queue time.
You can try using wait time in routing as the wait time can not be reduced.
Let me know in case of any issue.

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  • Scheduling by Milestone Operations

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    Step Duration Milestone lead time
    10 1 hr
    20 3 hr
    30 2 hr 8 hr
    40 2 hr
    50 2 hr 8 hr
    In this example the customer would want this order to take a total of 16 hours. They have a good idea of how long it takes the product to get from Milestone to Milestone. They want to capture all of the queue time in the milestone steps. Also they may have another order which has 7 steps but the overall leadtime the wish to capture is still 16 hours. This is a way for them to set general parameters without having to do time studies for every routing

    Hi Gordon,
    What I have understood from your requirement is that you wish to use Non - Milestone operation only for costing and not for scheduling but the scheduling for these operation must be done in milestone operation.
    I suggest you follow the below steps.
    1. Remove the NON Milestone Operations from scheduling in control key.
    2. In Mile stone Work center add another standard value key as wait time or previous operation time. (I assume u will have space to add another standard value key.)
    3. Please assign the control key meant for scheduling in this work center.
    4. Please note the activity type assigned in this standard value key must be dummy and unit cost must be negligible to avoid costing duplication. you can contact finance or costing team in this possibility.
    5. In routing, you can use the new assigned standard value key to assign the total time taken by operation before this milestone operation. Hence the scheduling could be done in mile staone operation and costing will not be duplicated.
    OR
    Using Queue time means you will have to maintina std. queue time and mini. Queue time.
    You can try using wait time in routing as the wait time can not be reduced.
    Let me know in case of any issue.

  • Sheduling  time for operation is not exact

    Hi Friends,
    I am performing backward scheduling  for the production order.
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    I have removed the shedule margin key and tried but not able to rectify the time floats coming in sheduling.
    so please suggest how to proceed in this senario?
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    omkar

    Hi   Pradeep,
    sorrry for replying you late.
    i have proceed like this.
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               30                       - 3        7do -         C shift
    there is no deviation in shift seqence, every day we have 3 shiftsA,/B/C one after another .
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    STILL NOT GETTING THE RESULT:
    THE DEVIATION IN TIME FOR SET UP &PROCESING  IS ALMOST CONSTANT ie: setup deviation is : 40 sec s and processing  :  3 min 40 sec for each operation and it also shedules in break tine.
    pleae suggest
    Regards
    om

  • Non-Milestone Operations to display in Co11N

    Some operations in my Routing have a control key that says its a milestone operation and some operations with a control key that says Confirmation possible. When I went to CO11N to do confirmations only the Milestone operations are showing up for selection.
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  • Default hrs proposal for non milestone operations should not happen

    Hi,
      I have a sequence of 4 operations among which last operation is milestone and all other three operations are confirmed automatically when 4 th operation is confirmed. But I have removed the default proposal of activity hours in the confirmation parameters of that order type.
      So when I confirm the 4 th operation automatically the first 3 operations are also confirmed with default activity hours as proposed by the system. But for 4 th operation system is not proposing any activity hours based on the configuration setting in confirmation parameters. But if I confirm first 3 operations individually using co11 then hours are not proposed and so there is not activity hours on confirmation.
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    mohan

    Dear ,
    Reference to your requirement , you go for setting Not relevent for costing in Operation Overview  in case Standard values is schedulling issue .
    Othewise , try the below option in OPK4
    1.In operation individaul entry scree keep -Confirmable operation check box marked
    2.In general valid setting  : in Check : Set Temination when operation sequence are not adeher too .
    3.Create an operation control key where Confirmation not possible option is there .Copy from standard and assing the same in operations whihc u do not want to confirm .
    Would like to know why do u need this kind process where u have operation hrs but u do not want to confirm ? what is the logic of keeping them in roouting  and schedueling through APO ?
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    JH
    Edited by: Jiaul Haque on May 25, 2010 8:29 PM

  • Reporting point backflush and milestone confirmation

    hello pp experts,
                           if we have the option of milestone confirmation then why do we use reporting point backflush, actually what's the difference between them?

    Dear,
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    So in REM we use MFBF reporting point back flush like CO11n which carried out on operation basis as milestone  operation is confirm previous also get confirm.
    To see the RP overview after confiramtion at each RP u can use MF26, this will give WIP qty to be conformed at each reporting point.
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    Dear Debdutta1
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    what is the difference between movement types 101 and 131?
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  • Milestone Confirmation for Process Orders

    Hi,
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    Fotini Delgado

    Hi
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  • Operation scrap and expected yield variance

    Hello guys,
    I have a question on the operation scrap and the expected yield variance.
    I have a product which has four operations, and on one of the operations (2nd operation) the operation scrap of 10 % is maintained.
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  • Default operation in CO11N

    We currently have 3 operations associated with one material.  In CO11N, when entering a production order number, is it possible to skip operations 0010 and 0020 and go straight to 0030 (our milestone operation)?  This would be so the person confirming production orders does not have to worry about selecting operations.
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  • Material backflush in production order after finished goods GR

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    In order component overview maintain the required part number with quantity. GI as can done with reference to order MB1A 261 movement type.
    Directly do GI with MB1A -261 movement type - Input the order number, material number and qty.
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    http://scn.sap.com/message/14850196#14850196
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    Ramagiri

  • Auto confirmation

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    Hello Hilal Çakir 
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