Subcontract Process: Over Delivery is happening

Hi Friends
I have configured for two delivery item categories in order to avoid over delivery as below .
ZTAN ; B Situation rejected with an error mess
Note: Delivery Item category u201CZTANu201D is for normal business scenario , first sales order followed by delivery .
LBN : B Situation rejected with an error mess.
Note: Delivery item category u201CLBNu201D Subcontract process , first Purchase requisition and PO are created , followed by subcontract delivery, LB .
Even though I made this configuration setting for delivery item category , for avoiding over delivery , LB delivery is not throwing any error , it is simply accepting over delivery.
I.e , when are only 100 quantities in PO , at delivery level system is accepting 1000 quantities despite over delivery configuration settings .
Can I request you to help on how to control over delivery for subcontract process ? .
Thanks In Advance
Jaya

Dear Jaya
Subcontracting is basically a MM process and initiated by a purchase order and not by sales oder
Thedelivery item category controls ( 0VLP) or zero VLP controls will not work at all
Delivery item category controls will work only if the delivery process is triggered with sales order and will not work for purchase orders even the STO is also purchase order only there also over delivery can not be controlled by zero VLP controls
So in your case also it will not work
It needs to be done thro userexit or development
But from MM side they have a lot of specific controls for delivery tolerances for purchase orders like over delivery tolerance and under delivery tolerance etc like some % defined
Check with your MM colleague
Hope this information helps you
Regards
Raja
Edited by: ramanathan raja on Feb 16, 2009 6:06 PM

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Hi Friends
In order to avoid over delivery , I have made configuration settings in 0VLP for delivery item categories . I have tested it and found it Ok .
But , In case of subcontract process , I have made same configuration settings for delivery Item Category .still , delivery document is accepting over delivery , it is not throwing any error .How to control over delivery for subcontract process .
Also , in normal process , with reference to delivery we create order . But in subcontract process , with which document reference delivery is created and in which T code can see reference document .
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Hi,
For goods issue u need to maintain tolarences for item category group or in customer master
what we maintain in po is for GR
regards
pradeep

About over delivery process

Hi, experts
I would like to know how to deal with over delivery to customer in sap as standard process?

Well that depends on your business process and the item value.
I mean if the the delivery tolerence is 10% and you over ship 3% and the item cost $10 in total then you'd rather not go through goods issuing that quanitity. Instead you would call your warehouse and ask them to cycle count the quantity off to adjust the inventory.
If the material cost a lot then you will need to charge the customer and do the whole process I mentioned above.
Cycle counting it off wont cover the accounting side of it. You need to make sure your accounts and finances reflect correctly for big amounts,
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What about scrap generated dooring Subcontracting Process

Hi all
Good Morning
In Subcontracting Process(i am sending Components to vendor).What about Scrap generated, how can i enter dooring Migo - Goods Receipt
Regards
Manju

hi
frist ly u have to maintain the scrap quantity in -ve value in the subcon po then do the normal process of gr and at time of gr give the actual quantity of the scrap
but at this stage the system will show the scrap quantity to the subcon stock ,so to make it to own stock do following
1.
Scrap
What kind of scrap we are speaking about?
a) If you pay the scrap you can get rid of it by MB1A + 551 + 'O' directly from SC vendor's special stock (I mean you can scrap the raw material (subcon-component)).
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the simple process steps are
1> create a bom tcode cs01 and mention the components and the scrap material but with -ive quantity
2> creaet a info record with the subcontracting category tcode me11
3> create a po with item category L tcode me21n
4> do the good reciept tcode migo
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6> do the gr of scrap tcode mb1b movement type 542
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regards
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Error message for over delivery quantity in case of batch split.

Hi All,
System is throwing error message if I try to to enter delivery quantity more than target quantity(order quantity) in case of standard process which is ok but in case of batch split when split line created (9000001 for line 10) and if go to item level in line item 900001 and enter delivery quantity more than target quantity system is giving only information message, still line item 10 is giving error message but line 9000001 giving only information message, user want this to be a error massege as well. Delivery item category for all the line items is same and status B is assigned to over delivery in item category. Is there any standard way of achieving this or do we need any modification, if yes then what user exit need to use.
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At our client place over delivery is activated in production orders.
At the time of confirmation , system is allowing for doing the GR of over delivered material.
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Hi,
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New requirement in Subcontracting process

Hi All,
There is a requirement related to indian excise, in Subcontracting process is it possible to merge below 2 steps 1)transfer posting to vendor stock and
2)creating subcontracting challan
That mean to say SC challan has to be created for some qty of material and transfer posting has to happen simultaneously for the same qty with 541 mov type.
This requirement may looks strange..!!
Do you think,it is possible in SAP..??by any means...
Pls confirm
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Normal pratice whenever you are sending material to sub contractor .Please count the material load inthe vehicle then raise document.
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In Subcontracting process if the subcontracting period of 180 days is completed and if material is still with Vendor, how to complete the process.
Also how to reverse the Cenvat Credit.And how cmplete/reconcile the challan.
Please explain detail steps and Tcode.
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Sub Contracting Cycle
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
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DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
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Process of Subcontract in MM
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Note:: At the Time of GR 543 Mvt is up dated for Raw Material.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to be created for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Info record and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
u2013 You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
u2013 If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
u2013 You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
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Save the purchase order.

Returns in subcontracting process

In subcontracting Process once materials is delivered by vendor and if the material has to be sent back to vendor whatis the Procedure? If the company is in bangalore and vendor in Mumbai what are the documents needed for return?

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If material is excise and Returnable(by vendor) plz follow this procedure..
a) Issue Mb1B with 541 mov type and create Challan in J1if01make 541 mov type doc as Delivery note Doc
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b) create return PO(ME21N) and do GR 161 mov type..
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Subcontracting Process

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If any one can explain in detail about scenario material vendor posting directly to subcontracting vendor
It 's very urgent
Thanks & Regards,
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Hi Sadhish,
Sub Contracting Cycle
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
(5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
Process of Subcontract in MM
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to becreated for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Inforecord and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
When you print the purchase order, the components are printed per order item
Subcontracting - Key Points
Special Procurement Process.
Item category: L
Order type: NB
In info record vendor should be maintained as subcontractor.
Vendor (Subcontractor) receives the components used to manufacture a finished product directly from your company or through third party.
Your company should place a purchase order for the finished product. In this manually you can enter the required individual components or it can be determined via the explosion of BOM (if exists).
Stock check at vendor level: ME2O
Company stock check: MMBE
GR for individual components through movement type: 501 or 561 (if with out PO or without reference).
GI to subcontracting vendor: through movement type 541.
GR from sub contracting vendor: through movement type: 101
Movement type 543 is displayed to cancel the material cost account.
If the subcontracting order has to be generated through materials planning,the special procurement key has to be set in MRP 2 screen.
- To create the Subcon Info Record : Tcode ME11 - Info Category - Click Subcontracting
- To create Material BOM : Tcode CS01
- With the Info and Material Setup, you can then create the Purchase Order in Tcode ME21N
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