Subcontracting - reg.,
Hi guru's
In subcontracting scenario while doing migo the quantity taken by the system for parent item is same as the child items as defined in the BOM. our client says that endusers are entering the child items in mismatching the quantity of parent item. This results in wrong updation of stock of the related child itmes. To avoid this type of irregularities our client requires the automatic quantity to be taken by the child items in related to the parent item as defined in BOM.
Please solve it as it very urgent.
tulja
Hi Tulja,
At the time of MIGO the system will explode the BOM automatically if it is properly maintained in your PO.
Check the components in BOM also at the time of MIGO system will bring automatically the Finsished component
and will do 101 Movement and for the child components 543 movement and the quantity is picked from the BOM.
But if you expand the FG quantity you can amend the quantity. So it is a change management issue and can be
tackle by training or user awareness and also by putting the same in risk and controls and audit.
Or you can think of blocking the function blocking MIGO_OK_EXPAND to avoid the expansion which I dont suggest as
a good practice.
Cheers!!
Biren Agnihotri
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