Thermaltake crystal orb on K8N Neo chipset w/ VGA Silencer

hi!
does anyone have a thermaltake crystal orb (http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/chipset/a1178.htm) on the nforce 3 250gb chipset and a radeon with a Arctic VGA Silencer on it - does the orb fit ?
I have one of these in another system i am thinking of using it to cool the nf3 chipset- the only problem being the fan on the VGA silencer comes pretty close to my current southbridge nf2 board -and by the looks of things its not in a very different location on the K8N Neo board.
thanks!

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Originally posted by ninjastyle
Am I right in thinking that the Vantec can't be installed without removing the K8N from the case? I'm guessing that it's just a matter of unscrewing the old NB heatsink and replacing it with the Vantec. This looks like a good unit though, I might grab one of these. How about using a little Arctic Silver 5 on it too?
Yes, you will need to get at the back of the MB to remove the MSI NB heatsink. AS5 is always good for what ails!

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Crystal orb on kt4 ultra northbridge...

does anyone know if the thermaltake crystal orb fits ok onto the kt4 ultra's northbridge? it's supposed to, but i'm paranoid that the holes aren't in the right place 8o
thanx

Thanks for the reply.
I was asking about the noise because you know what? some people are actually replacing their northbridge fan with a heatsink claiming it is making noticeable noise
I got 7 fans in my case so 1 more is not gonna hurt
I just checked with another seller and it seems like the standard Kt4 Ultra is now coming with a northbridge fan and not a heatsink as seen before...weird...but MSI has released a new KT4V MS-6712 - more info at:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=362&MODEL=MS-6712
it's got audio, lan and a heatsink (not a fan)
--fibo

K8N Neo Platinum & Thermaltake Kandalf Tower

I just bought a Thermaltake Kandalf tower and put my K8n Neo Platinum Mobo in it but I am having troubles with wiring the top panel of the tower to the mobo.
The Kandalf has the two USB plugs but when I plug them into the mobo it cuts out the USB plugs on the D Bracket, I would like to have both running if possible.
Also, for the life of me I can't figure out how to connect the Front Panel Audio Connector : JAUD1 on the mobo to the Kandalf's audio panel.
Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Originally posted by Perion
There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
1. NVSA020.zip, these drivers come in a diskete with your mainboard as well but possibly on an earlier version. You will need these if you plan to use a SATA Raid/ or simply a SATA drive when installing your OS of choice. Please note that if you plan to use a single SATA drive use SATA 3 or 4. In this case the drivers are not necessary but rather optional.
2. These are the nforce platform drivers. You can either use the ones off the msi site or the ones from nvidia's site. In any case i would suggest you replace the IDE driver package with the 2.5's -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_ide_4.15_win2KXP.html
3. if you plan updating to a sp 1 or 2 versionof xp, you will probably not need these.
4. ALC69.zip - > Here is the latest realtek drivers.

K8N NEO PLATINUM Nvidia nforce 3 250 GB Chipset rebooting - hanging !@$%@#$@

Hi folks,
I am working on the K8N NEO platinum motherboard based on the Nvidia nforce 3 250 GB Chipset.
A couple of days ago I lost my internet connection (broadband). After a couple of minutes it ok again. But suddenly the computer frooze.
After rebooting (button on case) I found out that lots of things couldn't be closed anymore once they were opened. I needed to use CTRL-ALT-DEL to go the the active Tasks. But then that started to freeze too so I decided to wipe everything of the system.
I repartioned and reformated the computer with the win XP PRO CD and reinstalled the OS. I saw immediatly that the system was slower then before and that it did not found the internet connection anymore. I checked the LAN connection and there it sayed that the LAN card was working well but that no cables were connected. This was not true because I dubbel checked them twice. I even replace the cable. It was not my Internet provider neighter because the computer is in a local network and others had no problem to access the internet. So I decided to reinstall and reinstall it again. I reinstalled the system (partioning, formatting) it 4 times. The last time suddenly it found my connection back. Then I installed all updates of windows and I used my live update from MSI to update my components.
I am using live update 3 and updated the BIOS and all other parts who needed to be updated. This was done without the presence of a AV and so on. Everything went well and no errors occured. I received everytime a message with success.
Today my computer suddenly hanged itself again. This already 3 times. Nothing is possible anymore except the boot button on the case.
I also encountered 3 times the while surfing the computer suddenly reboots itself without any warning or message.
What the hell is going wrong here ???
Can aynone give me a clue please ?
Is the motherboard dying ?
MSI live bios Version 3.7.000
MS-7030(K8N Neo Series / K8N Neo platinum)
BIOS version 1.7 (latest version)
Award bios release
2005/05/10

Charly.P
Russ_xp was asking about the Max amps on your power supply should be on label like this:-
Need yours - 3.3v= ??A.5v=??A,12v=??A
luck

K8N Neo Platinum/Chipset Driver

I'm having a problem.
I play WOW a lot and have been using the same old 66.93 video drivers for my eVGA 6800gt with no problems. Well after purchasing BF2 it said i needed a newer driver so i got the latest ones from eVGA (77.77). Well BF2 played kind of wierd still but WOW pretty much was unplayable....it would freeze every 20 seconds or so. So then i went back and loaded up my old 66.93 drivers again....WOW worked perfectly again and BF2 was also playable.
Now i can play both games at this time, however i'm sure i'll run into another problem down the road with the old 66.93 driver, it will just go out of date eventually.
So my question is, am i having this problem because i have the original chirpset drivers that came with my K8N Neo Platinum board? Do i need to get the new chipset drivers?
its a nforce3 250gb chipset driver...but i'm not sure what version (i'm at work). If this is what i need what do i unload on my computer first before going to Nvidia's site and downloading the newest chipset drivers? I'm used to loading and unloading video drivers but i've never done a chipset driver replacement yet...a little guidence would be nice (i'm sure it's simple i just don't want to mess something up).
oh...and i also used the MSI Live Update to update my bios already so that's done.

I don't see the point in updating a graphics driver if the older one delivers all the functionality of the card. It's not like many other drivers - newer graphics drivers can make performance worse instead of better, because they may be optimised for features of newer cards. The 66.93 drivers should do the job OK. They won't go "out of date" because they will always be as old as your card. It's the card which may go out of date compared with the requirements of future games.
I also don't think a newer game should require a newer driver. The driver is to enable functionality of the hardware. It cannot add new functionality that isn't there (that's not to say that a driver can't improve existing functionality if it's written better than a previous version or includes bug fixes).
What the game can legitimately say is that it requires functionality that your card doesn't have, but I don't suppose that's your problem. It could be worth updating your chipset driver package if you don't have the latest release - you can use Live Update to check that. If it says a newer version is available (5.10 is the latest public release for Windows XP 32-bit) I would download it, uninstall the current drivers (both chipset & graphics) in control panel, install the new chipset drivers & then re-install the graphics.
But maybe the problem is unrelated to these drivers. Have you got the latest directx runtime installed? That might be what your new game needs. You can use Windows Update to check for that.

K8n neo 4 platinum - replacing chipset fan

i'm thinking about buying a k8n neo 4 platinum for my next motherboard. however i read on newegg that it has a noisy chipset fan and that it can't be replaced.
is it noisy? can it be replaced? if so, what would make a good replacement fan?
i appreciate your input.

Quote from: freeAgent on 08-June-05, 05:02:03
I've put a Zalman resistor into my NB fan's circuit and the board's running fine, and has been 24/7 for over a month. Noise was dramatically decreased. However, I'm not using anything above stock voltage for the northbridge with this thing on. Eventually I might pop it off and make sure the thermal paste is alright and properly applied, but I don't have the time right now and it runs fine.
where did you buy the Zalman resistor? how did you install it?

K8N Neo Platinum hangs at "Initializing Keyboard Controller" step in POST

Hi Folks,
Here is my system:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum (New in box) (no clue on bios version, as I can't access it yet)
Athlon 64 3200+ 2200Mhz, 640Kb Cache
Thermaltake CL-P0025 Silent Tower CPU Cooler (VERY careful installing this)
2x512MB Mushkin 991460 EM3200 400Mhz DDR (
ATI AIW Pro X800XT (AGP)
OCZ ModStream 450W PS (3.3/28A, 5/45A, 12/26A, 220W/312W)
WD 74GB Raptor
Plextor 712A DVD/CD (SATA)
Here is my dilema: box powers up, POST stops at "Initializing Keyboard Controller". ( I know this because the little lights on the D-bracket tell me so.....:-) I have been on these forums as well as AMD's forums all day now, and have tried everything suggested, except swapping PS. But I think I have an adequate model.
One by one, I have disconnected any sources of possible problems. I have reset my bios too many times to count. I have isolated the MB outside of the case. I have re-seated everything numerous times. I changed Bios battery. I've swapped RAM, and it's positions. Even took it all off. I even bought another K8N from Ebay, and have the exact same results. At no time has the status lights displayed anything different, except for a quick change in color of light number 3 when I do a front-panel reset. Right now I have nothing but the processor on the board and I still have the same result; POST hanging at "Initializing keyboard controller". I have swapped keyboards unplugged the keyboard.
I am leaning toward the processor now. What am I missing? Should I just do an RMA and be done with it?
Suggestions encouraged......
James

Quote from: sincity337 on 04-August-05, 12:22:07
Bowen,
I've got an old Asus P2B that still runs like a champ, although slow by todays standards. You are right about it being rock solid, I have never had a problem with it, not one. As a matter of fact I still have it and I use it for my "linux box". Oops, a little off topic.
Anyway, it looks like MSI received the board today. I will start the stopwatch and see how long it takes to get a replacement board. I'll keep you guys posted.
James
Yeah those boards were the best I've seen. The Intel 865 chipsets are pretty good too. My previous 845 based mobo was nice as well. In the past, using VIA boards have been hit and miss with me. The K8T800/Pro and K8T900/Pro seem to be very stable though...still I would get an nForce 4 chipset over the newest VIA boards.
This is OT but I just received my shiny new BFG GeForce 7800 GTX OC card a few days ago and I was very surprised at it's performance. I was using a crappy Radeon X300 because I needed a temp card until I could buy either a 7800 GTX or the upcoming Radeon X900 XT. My last system I had a Radeon 9800 Pro and it ran flawlessly. I only had one problem with that card and it was driver related to only one game. The game was Call of Duty and that issue was resolved by going down to an older driver, but then ATi corrected the problem with a new driver release. Anyway as fast as the 7800 GTX is, I hated it! The reason is that despite it's awesome speed; the only way I can put it, is that it doesn't run games as smooth as Radeon's do. It was especially bad with Battlefield 2. This is ironic because BF2 is supposed to be optimized for nVidia cards.
It has a bad stuttering problem with BF2 and allot of people have this issue. Some have this problem with ATi cards but most are nVidia users. Even when I set the quality down to the same settings as my 9800P was at, it did the same thing. Other games like Counter-Strike: Source ran fine unless you had bots. Heh, even my slow X300 ran games more smoothly (not faster and at a much lower resolution and quality setting but still smoother) than the 7800 GTX. I sent the card back and I'm getting a full refund. I'm waiting on ATi to release their X900 XT and I'll buy that. What's strange is that prior to buying my 9800P two years ago, I had only used nVidia cards since the TnT2. Well times have changed I guess. Oh well, I guess I had to learn the hard way, but at least this way I know I'm getting the right card!

K8N Neo Platinum driver installation

There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
Perion
[Soon to build]
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
AMD 64 3200+
Corsair Value Select Mod# VS1GBKIT400
--> 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 CAS Latency 2.5
Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Mod# WD1200JD
ATI RADEON 9800PRO 128M
Thermaltake Gaming Tower XaserV Series Mod# V7000+
--> Case Fans: 2 x 80mm, 3 x 90mm
ENERMAX 460W PSU Mod# EG465AX-VE (W)FMA
--> 3.3V@35A, +5V@35A, -5V@1A, +12V@33A, -12V@1A, [email protected]

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Originally posted by Perion
There are 4 downloadable mainboard driver zips at MSI for K8N Neo Platinum (not including BIOS a upgrade) -
1. NVSA020.zip - SATA controller drivers
2. NF3_CK8S.zip - Chipset drivers including:
Ethernet NRM driver
Network management tools
GART driver
SMBus driver with updated uninstaller files
*Win2K IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
*WinXP IDE 2.6 driver with updated uninstaller files
3. USB2W9XME009.zip - USB 2.0 drivers
4. ALC69.zip - onboard Realtek audio drivers
*applicable version of Win OS
Are ALL these drivers from MSI to be loaded?
I think I read in some other posts where some of these drivers (?) cause problems and therefore default Win OS (or chipset manufacturer) drivers should be used instead. Is there a concensus (or list) of which drivers should or shouldn't be installed and the correct procedures and order for doing it?
1. NVSA020.zip, these drivers come in a diskete with your mainboard as well but possibly on an earlier version. You will need these if you plan to use a SATA Raid/ or simply a SATA drive when installing your OS of choice. Please note that if you plan to use a single SATA drive use SATA 3 or 4. In this case the drivers are not necessary but rather optional.
2. These are the nforce platform drivers. You can either use the ones off the msi site or the ones from nvidia's site. In any case i would suggest you replace the IDE driver package with the 2.5's -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_ide_4.15_win2KXP.html
3. if you plan updating to a sp 1 or 2 versionof xp, you will probably not need these.
4. ALC69.zip - > Here is the latest realtek drivers.

Help with K8N NEO 4 and AMD X2 3800+!!!

For christmas i got a new AMD Athlon X2 3800+ CPU. System Specs Below.
AMD Athlon 3800+ Dual Core CPU
MSI K8N Neo4 Sli motherboard, nforce 4 chipset
XFX Geforce 7800GT 256 MB PCI-E GFX Card
2X512 MB Corsair XMS 3200 Xtra low latency memory
Antec TruePower 2 550Watt PSU
Now, when ever i'm playing a game, at random time periods, the system will start looping the sound, and after a few seconds it will reboot. When it does this, the monitor will go into standby until it restarts,with the little amber light and everything. It does it more often on some games than others. The memory has passed a 24 hr memtest 86 with no errors, and this is the second psu i've tired and still get the same result. The psu in it right now is brand new. I dunno what to do. I'm tired of not being able to play my games b/c of this. The heatsink on the CPU is stock. Also on the graphics card. Temps never reach above 47C on the processor and 65C on the GFX card. Please help me.

I short of have the same problem.I got my pc about two weeks ago.
AMD 3800+ x2 Manchester E6 (Toledo E6 inCpu-Z)
MSI K8N Neo 4 Sli (came with 3.6 bios upgraded to 3.7 and 2 days ago 3.8)
Sapphire x1600 256 pci e
2x512 Corsair VS512MB400 value select(2,5,3,3,8 1T)
Tagan TG480-U01
The first day after a clean install i runned MSI Live update and it just froze (no other application running) force restart and then the hard disk was gone.Fixed it then updated all the drivers for mb graphics nvidia drivers AMD hot fix and M$ hot fix but still it just freezes.Today there were 2 one when i run MSI live update(??????) and another when using 3Dmark06(froze between tests).
Used memtest for 1 hour no errors no Oc althought when used MSI core cell Oc(bios) in comander mode froze in 1 min.Temps dont go above 41 42 (user mode 7/8 fan speed in core center when in Cool n Quiet temps reach 42 43 even 46 and it keeps the rpm near 1100 1200????????)when running games apps with stock fan.
Whats the problem

Question for those with memory issues on k8n neo plat

I have been having issues with my memory on the k8n neo platinum board since i built the system last month and i just recently discovered a fact I had overlooked.
I Have discovered that if i test the system while it is cool (having sat turned off overnight for example), then memtest will pass the ram just fine and the system will be stable for a short period of time, generally longer if no intensive applications are used, ie. doom3 vs. websurfing).
This system, once it heats up ( seems mostly to be the nvidia 3 nb that needs to be "hot"- that is, a probe placed in contact with the module reaches about 58+ degrees c) then the system becomes unstable and memtest, if used, fails.
Prime95, if used on it when its cool, will usually take about an hour or so to fail, but if its used on the system when its been running a bit ( temps from nb at 58c+ and memory module hot to the touch) then it fails after about 20-30 seconds.
I have placed an active hs on the nb in an attempt to correct this, but temps still remain high with failures occuring.
I have spent the better part of three days testing the sytem this way and the above facts have held true in all these tests.
I have tested at stock ratings ( not using "auto" in bios, but using "approved ratings" of 10 x 200 for fsb and timings of 2-3-3-7 for my ram at 1:1 (which is recommended as well) since i am testing for base stability at this point;Voltages have been left at auto settings, however.
I was wondering if anyone else with memory issues could try this out and post if this seems to be the case for you as well.
Perhaps the memory issues on these boards are directly related to a problem with the nvidia 3 chipset running too hot?
Does anyone have a memory issue with these boards who is using water cooling on the NB ?
Lack of issues from people using 'problem" memory, but having no failures with water cooled nb's would support my assumption.

Yes i did mean chipset.
I am using a stock hs/fan from amd, which seems to run a tad hot but, considering that I wont overclock until I can get board stable, its not an issue. (runs 35-40 idle and up to 72 intensive). I need the warranty more then the extra mhz at present.
I removed the stock heatsink from the nvidia chipset and bought a generic chipset cooler (green, very little in the way of fins and seems to be aluminum) with a small fan.
I used a generic silver paste from Compusa to adhere both the cpu hs and the chipset.
I didnt lap either hs, just installed each as per instructions on artic silvers website (figured it had to go on the same way even generic).
I also bought a kingwin thermal center which i ran probes from to the cpu, case, and nb chipset.
I am not using it to adjust fans so those arent connected - its just a reference temp I can see at a glance, esp considering the funky bios reading this boards been known to give.
I assume from these responces that even a nvidia 3 250 chipset shouldnt get as hot as mine?
I asked about that from the retailer i bought this from but he seemed to think it was "ok" at 50ish celcius, but then again he didnt look too confident when he said it, lol.
Idle right now reads on Corecenter at 28 celcius for cpu and 33 celcius for the chipset, although, I have readings of 37 c and 43 c from the kingwin thermal center, which i believe to be more accurate.
My voltage reads at 11.67 for the 12v line at idle right now.
The psu i got is stick from the xblade case i bought in store. (http://www.xoxide.com/xblade2.html)
I have a dvd burner, cd drive, and two maxtor ide hd's attached to the system;The only card is the agp.
Is there a way to check and see if the cpu ispower starved? software monitor or even an external probe perhaps?
I havent put a probe on it, but the ram came in its own heatspreader, which gets very hot to the touch as well.
What temps should I be looking for on these items?

*UPDATED 7/15/04* Complete guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum

Complete newbie's guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum:
Last Updated: Thursday July 15th, 2004
Bioses:
(In order of date released.)
1.1b3 - (Download)
- Pre-1.1, given to reviewers to use in their reviews and benchmarks.
- Less stable, but supposedly you get slightly better overclocks.
1.1 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Memory always run DDR 200 when install single side DDR on DIMM2 & DIMM3.
- Windows 2000 can't format the RAID IDE HDD when plug in Promise 378 controller.
1.2b5 - (Download)
1.2b7 - (No Download Yet)
1.2b10 - (Download)
- First attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and doesn't fix it for anybody with Clawhammer cores.
1.2b12 - (Download)
- Second attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and some people with Clawhammer cores.
1.3b1 - (Download)
- Another attempt to fix temperature problems?
- Possibly fixes cold boot/power light issues?
1.2 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- System can't resume from S3 sometimes when install USB device.
- Support K8 Sempron CPU.
- Turn off keyboard LED in S3.
--Quick Guide for flashing BIOS, provided by MSI--
1. Create a MS-DOS boot diskette, then copy the the .exe and the bios file to the floppy disk. Both of these files can be found in the package you downloaded.
2. Press "Delete" and go to BIOS setup while computer bootup.
Check BIOS advanced features and see if BIOS flash write control is enabled
(This option must be enabled. If you can not find this setting, it means the BIOS can be
flashed.)
3. Boot from MS-DOS boot diskette and get a:\> prompt.
4. Type "", then press ENTER
5. The flash program will then ask "Do you want to save BIOS?", please press "N" for no. The when you see Press 'Y' to program or 'N' to Exit, please press "Y" to continue.
6. After flashing complete, remove floppy and reset the system .
7. Press DELETE or F1 when prompted at first reboot after flashing.
8. Load BIOS optimized defaults, then save settings and exits.
Drivers & Needed Files:
(Note: All these drivers are for Windows XP.)
Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.40
(Please use at your own risk, these are LEAKED drivers. Password for the .zip file is "ocworkbench rules". Also, you will need to rename the WinXP_2K folder in IDE to either WinXP or Win2K else the installer doesn't pick it up.) Thanks for the link Wonkanoby!
*NEW* Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 5.03
More leaked drivers? Seems some parts of the drivers are older and some are newer.
1. Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Web Install) -or- Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Full Install)
2. Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Web Install) -or- Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Full Install)
3. Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.24
4. AMD Athlon 64 Processor Driver Version 1.1.0.14
5. Nvidia Video Card Driver Version 56.72 -or- Omega Nvidia Video Card Driver Version v1.5303
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard Nvidia drivers.)
5. ATI Video Card Driver Version 4.7 -or- Omega ATI Video Card Driver Version 2.5.51
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard ATI drivers.)
6. Onboard Sound Driver (Realtek AC'97 Audio Codec) Version A3.61
It is HIGHLY reccomended that you install the drivers/needed files in the order listed above. Please note that there are two #5's because you either install one or the other depending on your video card, do not install both of them.
You will come across a problem here though. You can't install the chipset drivers without installing the Windows service pack and DirectX first, but the Windows service pack and DirectX installs need the internet to download files and you won't have working internet until you install the chipset drivers. Here's what I did to get around this. Instead of downloading the web install versions of Windows service pack and DirectX, download the full version and and put them along with all the other drivers on a backup hard drive or burn them to a CD, this way you will have all the drivers you need when it's time to install them and none of them will require the internet to download files.
Another note when installing drivers. Apparently the Nvidia chipset drivers also come with drivers for the onboard sound, but people seem to agree that the Realtek onboard sound drivers are better. When you are installing the Nvidia chipset drivers, just be sure to uncheck the box for sound drivers when it asks you which drivers you would like to install. Now you can safely install the Realtek drivers without any chance of conflicting sound drivers. Thanks for the tip Wonkanoby!

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Originally posted by RLiu818
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Originally posted by Deviation56
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Originally posted by RLiu818
You CAN install the nforce drivers BEFORE installing SP1. The only requirement to install the nforce drivers is DX9.
So is SP1 still recommended to install before the nforce drivers?
The installer still reccomends to install it beforehand for full USB 2.0 functionality... I would have put what you said in there but I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
oh. IIRC the installer just says USB 2.0 will be fully functional after SP1 is installed. So after you install SP1 you go into device manager and u click update driver and it will auto search and update the driver.
Simplicity-wise, i guess its pretty much equal. It might take less preparation to just copy DX9 full onto a CD and install that first, then nforce driver, then right away you have yoru internet connection.
but i dunno.. i guess i will try it your way this time when my RMA"d board comes.
i will be fomratting and doing a fresh install later on today and will let you know if i come across any problems

K8N Neo DVD drive issues

I am having problems getting my liteon 811s dvd drive to work on my MSI K8N neo. Im pretty sure the problem is the motherboard. I did have the drive working for a while but one day it stopped working. It will show a cd and you can get into the folders, but when it tried to copy data the program that is trying to acess the cd just freezes. Another weird thing is that i can burn dvds ok. I have tried installing windows (in dos) on to a dinfrent hard drive and the installation just froze. I poped the drive into my older computer and it worked with no probelms. Another thing i tried was clearing the CMOS. That improved things temporarly, it would copy a dvd and after 40% it would crap out. After a restart it would not work like normal. I have also tried switching IDE cables.

Just to finish what I posted above:
With BIOS "Standard CMOS Features" for the Secondary Slave switched from "Auto" to "Manual", I can select the DMA Mode using Windows' Device Manager, it stays where I put it, and allows full function of the DVD/CD Rom drive. With BIOS set to "Auto", it wants to select Ultra DMA 5, which the drive is said to support, but this causes problems reading CDs. I can change the DMA Mode in Device Manager, but it finds its way back to Ultra DMA 5 after a reboot/use or two.
It may very well be that this could be fixed by getting the two DVD/CD drives off the same Channel -- when I feel like rearranging everything in my box to do this, I'll try it.
The funny thing is that with this virgin system, everything ran fine for a while. There may be incompatible software involved -- incompatible with either the drive or combination of drives, the mobo chipset, or the BIOS. I probably can't blame the nvidia IDE drivers, since I get the CD-reading problem even with Windows IDE drivers. I'm tempted to reformat the drive and start over, paying closer attention to this as I install software.
I first noticed the CD-reading when I updated the firmware on the drive -- I can't blame it on that since I reflashed it to original, and the drive works fine with either firmware version when connected to another machine.
My specific problem was that the drive refused to read any type of CD -- DVDs were OK. Windows could identify the files on a disk, but could not read them. (Changing DMA Mode fixes this, but getting the DMA Mode change to stick requires the BIOS change described above.)
Anyway, to 6th Extinction: I realize this thread has wandered away from your specific problem -- hope you get it solved -- maybe some of what's been posted here, and elsewhere, will help.

S3 mode doesn't work fine on K8N Neo-fsr since overclocking, please help!

I have a K8N Neo-FSR (MS-7030) BIOS version 1.6 (I tried 1.4, 1.5), running AMD64 2800+ SK 754, 2x 256MB DDR400 Kingston valueram pluging in slot 1&2. It runs well except S3 mode .
Since I overclock HTT (everythings else have their own default values), S3 mode seems to work so crazy . After wake up from this usefull stop-grant standby mode, HTT is given back to its original speed, 200MHz, without notice (?!) .
You know that I don;t like this much, do you?
Who responsible for this function? Mainboard or CPU? If it's mainboard, which department will be sentenced, BIOS or chipsets/ICs?
Could anybody give me a solution to achive higher speed by overclocking without giving up using S3?
Thanks so much!

It's a bad new! I had bad feeling about DFI with the same problem, S3 mode resuming bring FSB back to df and even sometimes led the system to the ruin. But upgrading bios solved this issue. My old Abit did S3 mode fine. Now I have a new MSI and once again I must use teknophyle's way or slow hibernation instead.
On the same occasion, I wana ask about some shortcoming in 1.6 bios: power on by keyboard/mouse and power led options. I only found S3 wake up by keyboard/mouse but not keyboard/mouse power-on options! There is power led option in version 1.56 but it disapeared in 1.6. Now my mobo has no signal to differentiate between sleep and power-off. would you give back the useful power led option and add power on by combination keys in the near future bios version, syar? Look forward to hearing some good new from you :D.

K8N Neo half multipliers and performance

I noticed that i'm able to set half multipliers in my K8N Neo BIOS.
What I mean by "half" multiplers are multipliers like 9.5x, 10.5x, 8.5x, etc ..
I read somwhere that you should avoid using "half" multipliers since they are really bad for performance.
Can anyone verify this claim ?

u dont mention power supply details of this would help
U arent booting with to much but these boards need plenty of juice on the 12v rail
if u have all 3 ram sockets occupied it may be worth taking 2 out & booting with a single stick till u get the thing going.
is your old pc still in running order ??
id be inclined to put a stick in your old mc and download a utility called everest home edition from: Everest Home Edition
install & run this on old mc
Expand the Motherboard option & open the spd there will be a description & details of ur memory which you can note
Click below on chipset & it will show u memory timings again note these
These details will be of value to see whether
1) it is compatable with new board
2) what timings u may need to set in bios
see wot u can do with 1 stick & let us know with PSU Details & memory if u can
good luck

New Windows XP 64bit, but no drivers for K8N Neo Platinum

Hello,
I have a MSI K8N Neo Platinum with an AMD 2800+. Just received the new Windows XP 64bit edition after attending a trade show in Houston. Used Partition Magic to make a separate partition on my SATA 400GB HD, knowing there was possibly going to be a problem. This is the final release, retail packaged, not the Beta.
The only drivers found was for my MSI Nvidia 5600 AGp video card. No other audio, Nvidia chipset or board drivers are plug & play. Onboard LAN isn't even found.
Any drivers out yet? I figure i'll have to wait. Can't get updates either bacause it won't detect onboard LAN or a Linksys or 3Com PCI card I tried also.
Woodrow

There most certainly are nVidia drivers. The only thing that there aren't drivers for currently is the onboard sound. This, combined with lack of driver support for my peripherals (webcam and printer) are why I haven't made the switch.

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