Cinema tools v3.1 and avchd

i've got 1920x1080 clips transcoded to apple intermediate codec from an
avchd (canon hf10) source. i need to reverse telecine the 24p material.
the hf10 says it shoots 24p standard, not advanced. the version of cinema
tools i've got here is v3.1.
1. will ct v3.1 handle 1920x1080 source?
2. what settings do i use for this? i've never used ct before.
so far, i've run tests at setting:
1. f1-f2, style 1, aa, bb, bc, cd, dd
2. f2-f1, style 1, ab, bb. cc, dd, da
while they vary, all of the tests retain at least one interlaced frame in
every four.
is there any point in redoing all of these tests with style 2?
fwiw, the conversions to aic were done with voltaichd.
thanks,
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