DPM 2010; migrated DPM protection group to new storage pool ; data on source disk is not expiring

I am running DPM 2010 with 4 storage pool disks. 2 are iSCSI; 1 is SAS; the fourth, also iSCSI, was recently deployed to replace the SAS storage pool disk.
(1) iSCSI
(2) iSCSI
(3) SAS - Source
(4) iSCSI - Destination
Initially we tried to migrate the entire data source (3) to the new iSCSI storage pool disk destination (4). This failed
Set-ProtectionGroup: The allocation of disk space for storage pool volume failed because there is not enough unallocated disk space in the storage pool (ID: 358). (Sorry, I was not allowed to attach an image).
We believe the source disk previously created dynamic links to the long-term retention device (tape) which resulted in exceeding the available space on the new destination iSCSI storage pool disk. The source storage pool disk was totaling ~2.5TB, but needed
~9TB for the destination.
Instead I've tried to migrate the DPM protection group. The migration was successful. I followed the procedure outlined here
"Microsoft DPM 2012 Sp1 – How To Migrate Data Source using MigrateDatasourceDataFromDPM by ICTtechie" (Sorry, I was not allowed to include a link).
My understanding / expectation was that the data on the source disk would expire within 5 days (as this is our retention time set for disk replication); instead data started to expire from the other 2 iSCSI (1), (2) storage pool disks.
What am I missing here?
Thanks

Ok - you may have bumped into this.
WMF 3.0 is incompatible with some Microsoft products including
DPM 2010.
Windows Management Framework 3.0 (WMF 3.0), which
includes PowerShell 3.0, was made available Dec. 11 on Windows Update as an
optional update but has since been pulled.
More information is available on http://blogs.msdn.com/b/powershell/archive/2012/12/20/windows-management-framework-3-0-compatibility-update.aspx
Resolution
To resolve this issue, uninstall KB2506146 or KB2506143.
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http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd282970.aspx
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Ivan

Hi Buchatech,
Nope, I haven't tried the updated script. I completed the migration manually 9 months ago.
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Ivan
Ok. I knew this was an old thread. I thought I would respond anyway to make sure you figured it out. I do know that the updated script does not error out on SCDPM 2012 R2.
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