Dry Loop

I have dry loop for DSL. Now I want to add vonage, but I can only get phone service on one phone. How do I get it through the rest of my phone lines. My internet works in every room. Why not the phone?
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#1 What is the brand and model of your modem?
#2 What is the brand and model of your router?
#3 What is the brand and model of the VOIP Device?
Please note, that the answers to questions 2 and 3 could be the same...
#4 I am not aware of any VOIP modem combo (modem, router and VOIP device all-in-one). If you have one, please post...
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Please go to your profile page for the forum by clicking on your name, and look at the top of the middle column where you will find an area titled "My Private Support Cases". There you will find a link to the private board where you and the agent may exchange information. This should be checked on a frequent basis as the agent may be waiting for information from you before they can proceed with any actions. Please keep all correspondence regarding your issue in the private support portal.

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Are you only seeing speed drops during the evening hours or is this a case that occurs 24/7? The line statistics look fine now, but there's a difference between congestion, an incorrectly built PVC and physical line trouble.
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Hi, I've got what appears (from what I've read in these forums) to be a common situation: have had Verizon DSL for years, no problems. Suddenly, within the past two months, my speed has dropped (I am paying for 1.5-3 mbps) and the internet connection drops sometimes for no reason. This became a big problem at the end of May when my final papers for grad school were due via email, and is still a problem now when I'm trying to work on my thesis with a number of online sources. Any help you can give would be appreciated.
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Despite missing some upstream from the length of your line (causing lower margins), your line seems to be fairing pretty well. Only a few uncorrectable errors with whatever else was occurring from perhaps noise, being corrected through Interleaving. The drops may be from the low margin on the upstream and downstream. If you happen to have access to a NID, see if you can connect your DSL modem to it and obtain the new statistics it shows. This will let us rule out at least your home's wiring as being the cause of the disconnects.
As for the speed issues, due to the lack of errors on the line, it looks like you might be suffering from issues related to the Junipers. Once we get some results from a NID test if it is possible, I'll send you some information on how to contact someone who can get you off of the Juniper, if possible, and onto a Redback router.
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How do I add a second line at home?

I've been trying to find the answer to this question online and have struck out. Verizon's website says that to add a second line at home you can log into your account, go to "My Profile," click on "Lines & Accounts," and then click on "Add Second Line" (or something like that....unfortunately today Verizon's online support system is claiming that online support is not offered in Virginia). When I go to "Lines & Accounts," however, it does not give me the option to add a line—it will only allow me either to de-register my current phone number from online account access or to register another billing number for online access.
At the moment I am not certain I actually want to order the second line—I just want to price it out to determine whether I would rather get a second line or switch to VOIP service with dry loop DSL. This is why I'd rather run through my options online instead of having to call customer service—it's easier and more efficient to be able to view the options on the screen instead of having to take notes while talking to someone.
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Bob, I hope you can help me too. I have 4th generation (? - the flat, square model that was recently replaced) Time Capsule/Airport that I bought to extend my Verizon DSL dry loop modem/wireless signal througout the house and to the guest house. I now know that it cannot be achieved due to Apple negligence in informing customers that the capsule will only extend from another apple airport product.
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Should I connect it via ethernet to my DSL modem and create a new network, but use the SAME network name, passcodes, etc? Will that Strengthen my existing wireless signal or will both machines butt heads and duke it out, so to speak?
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Suffice it to say, am very disappointed in the Time Capsule/Airport. It replaced an older, bigger Western Digital external hard drive that was so easy to use and reliable; am still using it, but it has no wireless signal boost capability, so I purchased the Time Capsule/Airport.
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I'd appreciate any help setting up my SPA 2102 w/ my D_Link wireless DIR 601

hello all
Not sure if this has been addressed before...
i found this link but my setup is slightly different.
http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?message.uid=227491&comm_cc=US&comm_lang=en
presently, I have a dry loop phone line---> speedtouch DSL modem---> D-Link DIR-601 and the LAN 1 going out 2 the main computer and LAN 2 going out 2 the SPA 2102
I can get my D-Link system working fine w/o the SPA or I can just hook up the SPA w/o the D-Link and then both phone/internet works fine.
Both have been registered separately using the 192.168...addy
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Message Edited by MIIM on 03-27-2010 03:48 PM

Basically you're cascading 2 routers. If that is so, you're creating double NAT network. As much as possible, it is recommended to connect the SPA2102 as a primary router because Voice requires more bandwidth.
This should be your network setup: DSL Modem - to the WAN port of SPA2102 - to the WAN port of the Dlink router.
If I'm not mistaken, these 2 devices are having the same IP. Change the LAN IP of the Dlink router from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.1.1.

Monthly charge increased with zero warning?

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I'm on the "High Speed Internet Enhanced" dry-loop plan, which was a consistent $44.99 a month. This month, I see I've been charged $49.99. I looked at my past four saved bills and there's zero mention of an upcoming rate increase.
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At this point, I'm grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon Wireless and I should probably just cancel my DSL line entirely and pay $24 a month after work discount to just tether and do a mobile hot-spot off my iPhone.
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1) When and where was this rate increase supposedly communicated to us?
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