DVD button loop point

I know this question is on here alot and I've already read some different things.
I have a project where the DVD menu has and intro and at about 16 secs. the buttons fade in. I have figured out how to make the button delay by setting the loop point. The problem is now my client wants the whole intro of the DVD menu to loop and have the buttons fade in at 16 secs. Is there anyway to keep the video looping back to the start and have the buttons still come in at 16 secs? i appreciate the help in advance.
thanks.

So visually, the menu starts, at 16 seconds the buttons appear and they stay on screen whilst the menu appears to loop from the beginning?
What I would do is make a whole bunch of clips into a single clip using FCP and placing them consecutively on the timeline, then export that to use as the menu background. Visually, this will appear to start over and over, but in actual fact it is playing through just once. Make it five minutes long, if you want so that no-one will rightly sit through it all.
Now add your loop point at 16 seconds as before. The buttons will fade in as you want, and then stay on screen as the background footage continues to play, looking as though it is looping. At the very end of your footage there will be a slight pause and the menu will then actually loop to the loop point, missing hte first 15 seconds off. Since this is so long into the menu I doubt very much whether anyone would notice. I would tell the client that this is the most efficient way of achieving the look (which it is) and let them decide if they want something different.

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First of all, I'm running DVD Studio Pro 4.2.1 on OS X 10.4.11
I'm trying to finish a project where when a video ends, it jumps back to the menu directly to the next button in order. This menu also has a loop point set in order to skip an opening animation. So I wrote the following script to accomplish this:
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Message was edited by: brazzamHD

Given lines 1, 2 and 3, it is very unlikely that GPRM0 will ever be zero...
What your lines are saying, roughly, is:
"find the value of the last button that was pressed on a menu, and reduce it to a simple integer we can work with. Add '1' to the button number and then jump to the loop point on the menu IF the value in GPRM0 is '1'"
The problem is that it will never be '1' because of line 3. The lowest value it could be is '2' when you keep that line in there.
Also, you don't specify which GPRM you are evaluating in either version of line 4 - I assume GPRM0, as that is the one you are working with in lines 1, 2 and 3.
If you want to return to the loop point of a menu depending on the button the user previously selected being the first button then the code is this:
mov GPRM0, SPRM8
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However, you might want to simply start at the loop point of the menu but make sure that the user is on the same button they were on previoulsy, in which case the code would be:
mov GPRM0, SPRM8
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If you want to go to the next logical button after the one the user was on previoulsy, then you would need to add a '1' to it. The code looks like this:
mov GPRM0, SPRM8
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add GPRM0, 1
Jump MenuName (Loop) \[GPRM0\]
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JF:
I add the button graphics into my background movie at the loop point. Then, I create an overlay file in Photoshop and add it to the menu? It will then only activate at the loop point, which works well since that's where the text would appear in the movie?
That's right!
I don't know is how to add the overlay in
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English is not my native language (I used Wikipedia to understand RTFM !!!).
I used to copy&paste some lines from the manuals when a post can be answered directly that way (why to write it again if it's well written there?).
This is my "last upgrade": I uploaded some captured images from the manual to use easier in this kind of frequent questions. I like to show that the information was right there in the manual . . . but I really find the expression RTFM a little hard !
;D
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Hi all,
Thank you for your time reading this. I've searched the forum and didn't see a resolution for this type of issue. Please accept my apology if it is noted somewhere and I didn't find it.
I created a Motion Menu in After Effects CS3 that is 00;05;07;00
I then saved the layers as a psd files (I didn't create buttons within AE)
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Jeff,
Thanks for explaining.
I'm now using CS5 and I'd heard the two menu thing wasn't necessary any more so:
A week or so ago, I was trying to figure out the same thing. I posted this question here http://forums.adobe.com/thread/852185?tstart=30.
Unfortunately, there were no answers, and by then I had found in the Encore Help under Loop point (as you did) this group of instructions at the bottom
"Set menu loop back
You can set a loop point in a motion menu to a point from which you want the motion menu to loop, rather than the beginning. This is useful when the starting point and ending point of the motion menu are separated by a long interval.
Select the menu from the Menu panel.
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Select Specify Link from the End Action Options menu.
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I'm not sure what the work "taget" means from the last sentence in the suggestions.
I was hoping an Adobe person would chime in, but so far no luck.
I'm doing this in a SD project and not BluRay.
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