InDesign Arabic typesetting

Hello everyone. I'm going to give InDesign typesetting a Arabic book, ask the Middle East version where I can download? How to change the text direction? I download the CS6 version of why there is no text direction button?
Thank you
http://helpx.adobe.com/cn/indesign/using/arabic-hebrew.html

Where can I download the Middle East version?

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Hello again,
We have a lot of text in Arabic in our doc. Because we copied the text typed in Word 2007, we lost the diacritic color set in Word (see pic). Is there any way to "turn it on" again?
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I had no idea I was going to write this much when I started... Sorry for the cultural-competence-in-typography rant, folks. I have to chat with my favorite Arabic contractor this evening anyways, and he loves it when I come up with excuses to spend a few hours on the relations between Latin-script type and Arabic type after we've gotten the mundane money-and-deadline stuff out of the way.
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If the font uses GSUB tables to position the diactritics (BAD!), then
you are right. The diactritics will be part of a ligature, and can not
be styled separately.
If the diactiritics are positioned using GPOS
tables (CORRECT!), then they are totally separate glyphs and can be
styled independently
but at no point has anyone asserted that the OT methods actually reflect good typography in Arabic. For example, go read the Wikipedia article about Arabic diacritics, and note that the hamza section redirects you to a whole separate article about the hamza. There simply isn't anything in any European writing system that is analagous to it.
Wikipedia posted:
Although often a diacritic and not considered a letter of the alphabet,
the hamza (همزة), or glottal stop, often does stand as a
separate letter in writing, is written in unpointed texts, and is not
considered a tashkīl.
A "tashkil" is more-or-less equivalent to nikkud - it's a vowel for an abujida that doesn't have vowels. Is it a diacritic? Depends on who you ask.
The OP was asking for a feature (diacritic coloring) that is present in Word. If you take some Arabic text, turn on colored diacritics, and then switch from font to font, then you'll find that only the shadda gets highlighted in one sample when it's set in Times New Roman, but if you switch to Arabic Typesetting (feh) then the hamza on alef-with-hamza-below (or above) gets colored, even though it's part of a precomposed character.
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Anything that can be set using Diactritic Positioning, is fair game to
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On the middle interface language

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Recently I undertake to an Arabic typesetting character, so I downloaded and installed InDesign CC Middle East edition, the interface language is English, English I am very poor, there is no way to turn the Middle East version of the language change into simplified Chinese version or let Chinese version supports Arabic writing and publishing.

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I know that <meta charset="UTF-8"> will suffice for most common languages, but what about when mixing two languages on the very same webpage? I will have one webpage that will be predominantly Arabic with some English words, or can UTF-8 understnad that and not try and mirror the English text to match the Arabic becuase it reads right to left rather than left to right?
I use to use <meta http-equiv="content-language" content="ar-en" but html5 doesn't like that now
Lee

In your head region, you want your meta tag to be "en"
I do realize that is completely counterintuitive.
I created two pages for an organization in two foreign languages (Spanish and Polish). Here is what I did:
In HTML5, I just left things alone.
<!DOCTYPE HTML>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8">…
In the div with the spanish language: <div lang="es">
When I am using Google's Chrome, it correctly identifies that region as Spanish and offers to translate the language.
So, put your language change in the div, not on the page.
Now, for Arabic.
Your web-pages should have following <meta>-tags set:
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=windows-1256"> or
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-6">
Frankly, I would do both, because I fear that older Microsoft browsers may not correctly display the Arabic unless you define it properly for Windows.
In HTML the base direction is either set explicitly by the nearest parent element that uses the dir attribute, or, in the absence of such an attribute, the base direction is inherited from the default direction of the document, which is left-to-right (LTR).
Now, if you need to set the entire page up as Arabic and have no other language, here is what you do:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html dir="rtl" lang="ar">
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">…
(this is HTML5). And one of the things you'll see is the dir element defined as "rtl" which means your text direction will be right to left for thw whole document. in Internet Explorer and Opera, applying a right-to-left direction in the html or body tag will affect the user interface, too. On both of these browsers the scroll bar will appear to the left side of the window.
But you can do this on the block level as well, just like I defined a div as Spanish:
<div dir="ltr" lang="ar"> … </div>
HTML 5 offers the auto direction control. The auto value tells the browser to look at the first strongly typed character in the element and work out from that what the base direction of the element should be. If it's a Hebrew (or Arabic, etc.) character, the element will get a direction of rtl. If it's, say, a Latin character, the direction will be ltr. This can be very useful for blogs, where you receive input that is submitted by readers.
Lastly, when you specify your typefaces, you need to build a type stack that will have the Arabic characters, but not assume that everyone is using Windows, or Mac, or Linux:
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-Mark

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I¹m looking for some help regarding Arabic fonts on Mac InDesign CS6 (Adobe Creative Suite 5.5).
I¹ve designed a company profile in English and they need it to be translated into Arabic for their Middle Eastern branch. They¹ve sent the correct Arabic copy in a Word document but the moment I copy it into InDesign it corrupts and becomes illegible. I¹ve looked on the Adobe and Apple forums but can¹t find a solution for the problem.
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This is a Mac problem because one of my friends have InDesign for Windows and the font works 100% on her version.
Mmmmaybe.
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I¹ve designed a company profile in English and they need it to be translated into Arabic for their Middle Eastern branch.
I don't do much commercial work myself (I'm more of a nonprofit, social-service guy) but a "company profile" sounds to me like something that should be typeset by a graphic designer who actually reads the language. You are working on some kind of marketing or business speech intended for distribution in a culture where good calligraphy and typography are very important. It is unfortunately very easy for those of us who are not immersed in these calligraphic traditions to accidentally do something equivalent to formatting a press release in sixteen-point Comic Sans. So if you keep posting in this thread we can get you to the point where your Arabic copy is legible, and probably to the point where it's not embarassing. But if your clients need anything more than basic legibility, you may want to hand this off to someone who is an in-language professional.

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We have the scan of the card in .jpg
Now, I enabled Arabic in the keyboard layouts,
in International inputs and I do have arabic fonts that work.
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We have turned on the arabic keyboard and that didnt help either.
Well, why should it. Unless you are typing Arabic, that won't do anything at all. Copy-and-paste is not typing.
If copy-and-paste does not copy the font along so you get the pinky squares in InDesign, it only means that your default InDesign font does not support those characters. Select your text and then choose another font -- one you are sure of contains Arabic.
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A client wants me to work on a text which is both english and arabic.
I heard this is only possible with the arabic version of indesign?
If I place the text in my present version, it comes out unreadable (arabic letters/words -but not connected and jibberish my client cannot read)
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Where do I start?
Will installing the program affect my regular version of indesign?
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(I subscribe monthly to CC, maybe it is included? )

ME version means Middle East Version, it is the general term for all RTL versions. Until CS6 it was sold as separate version. Since CC it is included without any additional cost starting fro CS6 up to the latest version which is now CC 2014.
Follow these steps as I have written before:
Wilhelm Georg Adelberger 26.01.2015 16:04 (als Antwort auf: mariakaskillustration)
You have installed Swedish InDesign, it is ok, leave it, don't uninstall it.
Open the Creative Cloud Application.
Opent the preferences and in the Apps change the language to English with Arabic support.
Install InDesign
Now are additional plugins installed which add new functionality to your Swedish version.
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Hi,
I am planning to publish a book about coins written in arabic. That's why I have to use latin and arabic letters in the same page.
I just installed trial version of Indesign (7) CS5-ME.
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Hi,
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