K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra

ok i just got a new mb and processor and psu .
amd 64 3500+
psu = 520w 12v-36a
mb = K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra
all i did was excgange this mb and psu and cpu with my old ones. and i installed everything fine but when i turn on the comp i get no display like i have no video card....ive dbl checked everythhing and put in 2 otehr video cards and still no display...im not shure if i need 2 uninstall my old bios? if thats possable i have no clue or uninstall anything b4 i made this switch can you please help me out thanks alot.

k did that .. ok this thing is getting 2 me lol it gives me prossesor error 4 red lights then i turn off does sdame thing mess around with it turn power supply off completely for more than 10 sec then back on and it boots up giving me yet anothyer error like 1 and 4 yellow 2 and 3 red or other way around and i turn it off turn it back ona nd leds are still teh same arnt they supposed 2 reset? then i turn off my psu for more than 10 sec back on and its reset...i dunno what this means is it the battery on the mobo? prolly not i have no clue @ this point and ive tried diff keyboards.

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I have started to purchase my parts for a new build. I will be using the MotherBoard in the Subject line. My present system is in my signature. I have a Wireless Internet Service which has a small Yagi antennae on the roof which is pointed at a tower which is 3.1 miles away. My present setup, I have a GigaFast WF747-UI Wireless USB Router pluged into my computer. On the wall, I have the D-Link DL 524 Wireless Router which is hard wired to the antennae. I have the NVIDIA nForce MCP network controller on the system I now have disabled.
My question is: On the new setup, can I just disabled all of the onboard LANs and not even load any of the software for them??
Thanks for any advice: Pop's

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On the new setup, can I just disabled all of the onboard LANs and not even load any of the software for them??
this has been answered many times in the thread.
If you are not going to use them; disable in bios, windows won't find them, so won't show (at all) in device manager and you won't be prompted for 'new found hardware'. Therefore no need to load the drivers for them.
If you subsequently want to use them them obviously will have to enable in bios, then you will be prompted for 'new found hardware' then you will have yellow explanation mark in device manager until driver(s) loaded.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, Socket 939, nVIDIA nForce3 Ultra Chipset w/ 8X AGP (ATX)

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, Socket 939, nVIDIA® nForce3 Ultra Chipset w/ 8X AGP (ATX)
and a 3500 90 nm amd 64.........is this a god combo ......Im swicthing mine for this(just the cpu and mobo) opions?..........any help is welcome...Its in the name of gamging...

Quote from: duffyone on 31-March-05, 11:54:15
Now... don't LOL, but there is a reason I picked the 3200+ instead of the 3000+, but I can't remember why???
Probably because the 3000+ only has a 9x maximum multiplier, whereas the 3200+ will go to 10x.
2600MHz at 9x means a FSB of 289MHz and ram at 289MHz for best performance. Will your ram do 289MHz? Of course you *can* run your memory and fsb async, but I prefer not to.
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Issues with K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 and Athlon64 3000+ Venice

Hello everyone, I am planning a long overdue upgrade of my system. Right now I'm looking at the K8N Noe4 Platinum (non SLI) mobo with a Athlon 64 3000+ Venice CPU.
I haven't seen any posts saying NO DON'T PUT THESE TOGETHER but then maybe I've missed something. Any comments would be appreciated, if you know if any problems that seem common between these two please let me know. Thanks!

there is no problem with them.Just make sure if you can that it will come with the latest Bios that full support Venice core.If not ,then it is easy to update it afterwords.
Just also make sure that with you upgrade that you will have a real good PSU more than 450W or/and with 26-35 A on the +12V rail.

Lan issues with the K8N NEO4 Platinum NF4U 939 Motherboard

New K8N NEO4 Platinum NF4U 939 Motherboard.
After three or four hours the connection started to get unstable. I am a high end gamer and any net slowdown I see and feel.
Using my "Ping Plotter" program i saw the issue. The first hop to my router was going from 0 to 47ms. On all of the other conputers on this network hop one stays at 0.
In looking at the over all ping to my game server I noted that when hop 0 went to 47 it messed up all of the other hops and made the connection to my game server unstable.
The odd thing is I bypassed the onboard nic's and installed a PCI nic and it did the same thing.
I got with MSI and they had ne updare the NVIDA drivers. This lowered the swing to 0-17. I removed the PCI lan and am now back with the onboard nic. I have replaced the DSL modem, cable and removed the dlink and the issue is still the same.
This is my first computer with XP and at this point I do not know if this is an XP issue or a driver issue.
In installing a pci nic some of the network control is still done on the motherboard so that does not rule out a motherboard/chipset driver issue.
I have set up a web site that shows screen shots of the ping plotter. Please take the time to look at them and tell me what you think.
http://webviper.com/LanIssues.htm
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
WebViper

Hello !!
Please give more information about your system specs.
But i would try the following:
Download the latest nforce and vga drivers from nvidia ( if you are using nv VGA card ? ). Google for "driver cleaner" and download it.
Restart system and press F8 to enter safe mode. Now uninstall all nvidia drivers(chipset & VGA), and run Driver Cleaner after it. Select the nvidia tabs and remove them....
Now reboot, when prompted to install new drivers cancel this process. And start nvidia chipset driver setup, install all drivers but do not install the IDE driver from nvidia, you will be prompted for this.In first attempt you should not install nvidia firewall. Restart and install VGA drivers. Now test again your network connection. I hope it helps....
Greetz

MSI K8N NEO3-F Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX

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Eventually I found that if I pull the lithium battery from my motherboard, my computer will turn on. The computer will run without the battery, or if I resit the battery. The battery on a motherboard only deals with the bios and the time and such. It doesn't make any sense at all. I am going to test my powersupply tomarrow and then my video card on a laiter date. I have tried replacing the battery. Getting around this problem wass not hard, I have installed games that look phenomal. I was succesfully able to install my OS also. Resetting the bios on every load up is not fun.
My other recent problem has been with the video card though(this is why im going to test with another VC). When I resit the battery after shut down, and turn my PC back on, the Video Card over powers it self. For three minutes the monitor wont recognize my card and my card pushes as if it was running DOOM3. Finally it steadies out and the monitor turnes on. Please help me out if you have any good info for me. I'll try anything at this point. I'm not computer illeterate.
I am an Intern with TWC's IT departement. I am also going to school for computer science. The A++ side of computing I had never learned.
.......Every where I go with this problem, no one seems to know the answer. No one will even throw ideas at me. Someone please help me out
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ASPIRE ATX-AS520W
MSI K8N NEO3-F Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX
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MaYBE I'm not really understanding the problem here...Are you trying to use the switch on the PSU to begin the boot process? If so, hopefully, you should continue to have trouble doing that, it's not supposeed to work that way. If the computer starts with the power switch on the PSU there might be a problem with the CMOS jumper, jbat1, being in the wrong position...continue to post your changes and progress and someone will continue to help you, there's a lot of good heads around here, but there's a lot of guys with problems too...add as much of your configuration info to your signature as you can find out, that will help us help you as well...

New K8N Neo4 Platinum build. Help, Nforce4 driver question?

I am building a new K8N Neo4 Platinum system (see my sig). I wanted to get the latest Nforce4 drivers, before installing XP. I noticed on the Nvidia website a 5.10 Unified Driver download and a 6.66 AMD download. Which should I use? It looks like the versions in the 5.10 Unified Driver are actually older than what is in the Nforce4 drivers, from the MSI site. If I use the 6.66 AMD drivers, should I make a SATA Raid Driver floppy, from them, to use during the XP install? Any advice is appreciated.

just do it from a floppy, LiveUpdate is crap
and yes you HAVE to F6 these drivers on Windows install if you plan on using SATA or you cannot boot from SATA
unfied drivers are NOT FOR NFORCE 4. You MUST use the NF4-specific 6.66 (or earlier)
Unified Drivers are specific only to nForce 1/2/3. AMD and Intel each have specific and unique driver sets for nForce4.
download 6.66, extract and explore the folder
go to IDE->Win2K->SATARAID and copy everything in this folder to a floppy
make two floppies just to be safe
you cannot use CD, you MUST use floppy because Windows will look in a: only
as soon as Windows install starts you will see a screen that says "Press F6 to install third party SCSI or RAID driver"... hit F6 and insert floppy and after a few minutes, you will get a screen that says"
"Press S to install other drivers..."
press S
next screen comes up, first select and install "nVidida Raid class driver (required)" -->hit enter
back to "Press S to install other drivers..." screen
press S again
screen wil come up again, this time choose and install ""nVidia nforce storage controller(required)"
one more time back to "press S to instal other drivers...", this time just hit ENTER
now you're good to go

BSOD's on my x64 K8N Neo4 Platinum based PC, Any ideas what's wrong? Help!

Over the past few month I've been getting BSOD's. There is no real pattern to their occurence and it's not something which is constantly happening (It happened around 5 times in the past 2 months), but I've really grown to hate them. You see, after getting one what has happened in the past is that when I go to restart my pc after getting a BSOD, I find I need to re-install my whole OS! What happens is that after booting (which oddly enough doesn't work well after a BSOD, It freezes on the boot screen and I need to restart several times), a black screen appears telling me that certain files in the C:Windows\ direcotory are corrupt or missing.
So the real problem is that the BSOD's cause me to re-install my whole OS. One will happen, then it will be ok, I turn the system on, log into windows, then it might happen again, after which I'll need to re-install. The files that go missing are always different too, and when I run scan-disk (after plugging in my main drive into another computer) it finds corrupt files and deletes them.
At first I thought it was Azureus (p2p client) which was causing the problems because it seemed to happen when I was runing that. I stopped using it, and the BSOD's still occured...sometimes randomly when browsing...etc. I figured that since files got deleted and corrpupted, it must be a problem withthe Hard Drive....So I bought a new one, and I've still had the BSOD error (although files haven't been deleted yet).
So yeah, I really need to solve this problem as it is taking away from my productivity and causing me to re-install far too often. I will post the BSOD info as well as my system info below (and a screen shot):
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MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION
*** STOP: 0x0000009c (0x0000000000000004,0xFFFFF80000113BC0, 0x00000000B2000000, 0x0000000000070F0F)
I looked that up on the net, and it seems the first part seems to indicate, or at least COULD indicate overheating. I checked CPU and System temps and they seem acceptable.
I am running Windows XP x64 Edition with the following hardware (please note that all of the hardware drivers I'm using are written for x64, MSI is so good:)). I have had this PC before it started having these problems, it could be related to using x64 I guess, but the error doesn't show that does it?
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AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz Socket 939 (Venice Core) w/ stock heatsink/fan
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum S-939 nForce4 Ultra
OCZ PC-3200 DDR400 Premier Series 1GB (2x512MB) Dual Channel Kit CAS 2.5
Ati Radeon x800xl 256MB gddr3, PCI-E
LG 17" L1720B LCD monitor 16ms, 1280x1024
Western Digital Caviar 120GB SATA
Western Digital Caviar SATA II (WD1600JS) 160GB 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
Western Digital Caviar SATA II (WD2500KS) 250GB 7200RPM 16MB Buffer
Pioneer DVR-109 DVD-RW
Pioneer DVR-110D DVD-RW
Antec Sonata II Mid tower ATX black power supply 450 Watt ( ATX12V 2.01 )
Creative I-Trigue 2.1 L3450 speakers
Sony 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive
Microsoft multimedia keyboard and Microsoft optical mouse (PS/2)
My OS and drivers are fully updated. As for my BIOS I've been running the version I'm using now forquite some time and I believe it is version 1.5. Also in another bad turn of events, my northbridge fan seems to be on its way out of this world (this just happned so I don't think its related to the BSOD). I haven't been able to find a replacement, and since its not spinning very fast, and sometimes stops...It's causing the heatsink to get quite hot. I need to get a new one, and I can't find them anywhere...I wonder if thats covered under warranty... I looked into getting a different heatsink, but my Graphics card is so colse to this heatsink, that theres no room for a bigger one at all.
Do you think this problem is motherboard related, I cannot understand what the technical info the BSOD gives me means, can anybody understand it? I don't think its my HD's, or Ram, or CPU...could it be a motherboard problem? And if so, its under 1 year old, can I get an RMA?
Thanks for the help in advance.

At one time I had a weak 450w psu that had only 18a on the 12v rail. When I overclocked my cpu and gpu, I was getting bsod's every once in a while and couldnt figure it out until I read a similar post like yours on this forum. I decided to upgrade my psu and havent had that problem since.
Power supplies can be deceiving. I now have a 480w psu but its has 30a on the 12v rail. So what we need to know is the ratings of your psu (see my sig) just to see if your psu is the culprit. Just my 2 cents.

MicroStar K8N Neo4 Platinum 54G - nForce4 Ultra Avilability in CZ

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The freaky boot screen freeze happens something like this:
1. the mother board model number is shown
2. the CPU information is shown (or sometimes this is skipped and not shown)
3. here it may or may not freeze and usually it produces this terrible out of sync mess (and monitor has to be switched off to get it back to normal)
I don't see any connection to overheating, I never touched any overclocking settings (or any other settings for that matter, it's a 2-day old installation).

Audigy2 + MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra prob

Hi I have an audigy2 from my old pc and installed it on my new system the motherboard is a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra after I installed it I began getting 'Machine_check_exception' blue screen of death, I used the creative auto update to update to the latest drivers, now the pc makes a hissing sound and reboots it's self.
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hi
i am getting th same thing with my gigabyte nforce 4 board
ga8nxp-sli
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i turn it off and all the problems just go away but i still get no sound (not much help there i am afraid)
regards
andy

K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra and 4 GB SDRAM DDR 400 Problem

I have the K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra and 4 1GB sticks of Corsair ValueSelect DDR 400 (PC 3200), model VS1GB400C3, filling all four slots. The BIOS recognizes about 2.88 GB of total memory. The MSI manual states:
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Due to the South Bridge resource deployment, the system density
will only be detected up to 3+GB (not full 4GB) when each
DIMM is installed with an 1GB memory module.
I'm not sure what this means. Does it mean that I'm "wasting" my SDRAM, that not all of it is used, or does it mean that all of it will be used and the BIOS just reports a smaller number?

Hi.
You seems not familiar with X86....
As you should know, Windows XP and most OS are 32 bits. That mean that every memory pointer is 32 bits, thus allowing to address 4Gb of memory.
BUT
In most OS, there is a difference between the kernel and the user. So, in most OS, the memory is divided in two 2Gb block (no matter how many Gb of Ram you really have!). The first one is for the OS, the 2nd for the user program.
So, If you have for example 3Gb of ram, in the best case, you have 1gb for system and 2Gb for user program.
To allow more Ram to fonction, PAE (Physical Address Extension) was made. Instead of 32, you got 36 bits for you pointers.
But as X86-32 CPUs can't handle more than 32 bits, a reserved area was made within 4Gb to allow Memory to be copied from the area the program want to read.
Exemple:
You got a server with 8Gb of ram. In windows, you only see 3.5+512Mb PAE.
If a program need to address memory in the 7-7.5 Range for example, the chipset copy the data from the 7-7.5 range to the 3.5-4 range in order to allow the CPU to get access: that's VERY slow.
So, in short: You can't have and don't need 4Gb of ram on 32bits OS.
(And there's even more place occupied by every card (AGP, PCI, PCI-e)....)
That's why XP64 is so interresting for programmers who needs lots of ram (Database....). When used with a chipset who know how to deal with lots of ram (I don't know if NForce4 can do it but I doubt it), you can load in memory a 4Gb Database.
But In all case, the bios should say 3.5Gb, not 2 and so on. You must have a problem with one of your stick. My guess is that they are all double sided and that you should slow down the memory to 333MHz.
(Or better: Send back 2x1Gb stick and get 2x512 SINGLE SIDED stick, unless you REALLY NEED 1.5Gb for your system !)

K8N Neo4 Platinum Ultra nForce4 no post.

Took the cpu off and cleaned it, upgraded the video card started the computer and no post. Led's 1,3,4, green 2 red. Took cpu out and checked it no bent pins, checked all connections. Sometimes when it boots it will have 4 green led's but no video. Tried another vid card same thing. Tried booting and holding the insert, cont+home, F1, delete keys. Get power to the fans and hear the HDD sometimes.
Specs.
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Ultra nForce4 bios v1.6
Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego Core
Geil value ram
1-36GB Raptor
, M45 Powercolor Radeon X800 GT PCI-EX 256MB DDR3 R480 Core
XP.Pro.W/SP.2
X-Connect 500W ATX PSU
+5V +3.3V +12V -12V -5 +5VSB
30A 28A 34A .8 .3 2
Edit: Have cleared the cmos many times. If I boot holding the insert key down for a while I get 1,3,4, leds red 2 green, if I then push F1 they all turn green but still no vid.

No posts to your post either LOL
Anyway - could be fans causing it - I had my Neo not booting until I disconnected a case fan from the mobo fan header output.
Try with just leaving the cpu fan (could also be this one of course) .

Nforce 4 ultra k8n neo4 platinum need info

hi people. i need some help
im about to purchase a new mobo with nforce 4 ultra and i like msi k8n neo4 platinum (nforce 4 ultra + dual lan gigabit, 8 sata ports (4 nvidia) etc. i didn't whant sli by now so...
1° do you recommend this mobo?
2° i see lots of bios upgrade in the support page of this mobo, if there something i didn't like is to flash a bios several times, so i must upgrade bios at once with the latest or i must do it one by one?
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ivangelion, I have this board and it's a good choice.
So to answer your questions:
1. yes
2. No you can upgrade to newest right away [ver1.D]
3. 939. Most people/ forums are saying to wait awhile on the AM2
4. The Silicone Image RAID supports RAID 5 as it is now on this board.
5. That's a good starting point and you can amp it up from there as $$$ permits.
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AMD 3000+ Winchester Socket 939.
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first of all, i don't think there's a dual chip 7800 GTX 512 card out there. if you are talking about two single chip 7800 GTX 512, that is a different story. in that case yes, you need a SLI mobo, but that is not all. you need to have nforce4 sli chipset on it, because the sli mobos based on the nforce4 ultra are not enough you need a monster power supply cause those cards suck all the power from your average 450-500W PSU. i don't think that should be a problem for you, since you seem to be loaded with cash and can afford buying a new k8n diamond plus 2x16 sli mobo (2 x 7800GTX 512 = 1500 USD easy, if you can find them - alienware and monarch charge you in excess of 900 USD for each)

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