Lot size data

I have a maximum lot size for my procurement parts. If my requirements for a day are higher than this quantity I want to have a supply with my maximum quantity for this date and the other quantity on the next days. Not at the same day.
The system creates splitted deliveries for the same day.
Which settings are necessary?
Thank you for suggestions.

Hi,
Use Lot size EX - Lot for lot order qty and assign max lot size in MRP1 view.
In MRP 2 view assign TAKT time 1 day.
So when MRP run system will generate procurement proposal for the required qty if it is less than max lot size.
If the requirement qty is more than max lot size system will split the qty & generate one more procurement proposal for the next day.
Regards,
Dharma

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I created a Material master for a Finished product in Pharma industry and in work scheduling screen, under the section "In house production time in days", I see that "lot size independent". What change(s) in my settings in the Material Master can change it to "lot size dependent"?
Does any changes in the "Lot size data" section in the view "MRP1" have any effect on this field?
Also one more question:
Where is the Usage for BOM first specified? Is it in material Master or when creating a BOM?
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Message was edited by: Visu Venkat

Hi Visu
No,Lot size data in MRP1 view will not have any effect in inhouse production time in work scheduling view.
You need to maintain the base qty in work scheduling in order to get the scheduling time for lot size dependant.
BOM useage is first specified only during BOM creation.
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Regards
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1) Are we missing any kind of further configuration\setup?
2) Or the current system design does not allow collecting data on single quantities of an SFC which main quantity is greater than 1?
3) Looking at this link Approaches to Collection of Data - SAP Manufacturing Execution (SAP ME) - SAP Library, there's nothing mentioned about same SFC number with multiple quantities!!!
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Ali

Ali
to collect data for the same SFC multiple times, your system rule "Allow Multiple Data Collection" needs to be set to true for the site.
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I need your help with regards to the master data set-up we have in APO. In tab Lot Size, the Procedure of our products is BY PERIOD, period type is W (weekly).
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Lot size different to master data
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Thanks in advance,
Arul.

Dear,
Please check,
When a master recipe is scheduled, the lot size can be proposed in two different units of measure
If a base quantity is maintained in the material master (view Work scheduling), the lot size is entered in the base quantity of the material master. If no base quantity is maintained, it is entered in the unit of measure of the recipe header (header unit).
That is, the unit of measure of the lot size is predefined by the system and you cannot choose it.
If the lot size is entered in base unit of measure for scheduling, up to now, no conversion between base unit of measure and header unit occurs. The lot size (in base unit of measure) is converted into the operation quantity directly via the conversion factors of the operation. The scheduling result is incorrect. and system display the message Lot Size different to master data.
Regards,
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MRP Type P1 & Lot size PK

Dear All,
This is REM scenario,
Client is going scheduling agreements
material master Settings
MRP Type - P1
Planning time fence - 10
Lot Size - PK
Procurement type - F
GR Processing time - 2 days, No plad delevery time maintained.
in planning calendar we are going with only one day as Friday
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16/06/2010 ( wednesday ) Rescheduling date as 07/06/2010 ( Monday ) ( Rescheduling in i.e 10 )
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Please share your views or if required more info then revert back
i cannot upload Docs as my company policy is not allowing
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Hi ,
Bring process forward (reschedule in)
Within this rescheduling horizon, the net requirements calculation checks whether, after a requirement, a firmed receipt exists, which can be used to cover this requirement. Then the system displays a rescheduling date as well as the exception message Bring process forward for this receipt. The net requirements calculation then uses this receipt and the system will only create another procurement proposal if the receipt quantity is not sufficient to cover the complete requirement. Several firmed receipts can be used to cover one requirement.
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Hi,
Thanks for reply.
I know this is common issue of file picking before completing the process of file writting and also i can use Msec to wait before modification check for avoiding this but
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Hi all,
Two questions:
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I am wondering if there is anyway from ABAP table or from Transaction (i.e. Purchasing Order) in which the source is pulled from a Quota Arrangement?
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Tomek,
If I want to use the split quota, it seems there is some pre-requisite.
If you go to MEQ1 and press F1's on the "Minimum qty split" column, and you will notice the following message.
Allocation by quota using splitting quotas is only carried out via a requirement planning run, subject to the following preconditions:
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Indicator: Splitting quota in short-term horizon
The indicator for splitting is used to determine that in the case of the selected lot size, the quota arrangement is to be applied using the splitting logic.
Use
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Lot size dependent / independent

Hi, please advise when the system uses this lot size times data in mrp4 view? Where we need to specify that whether lot size dependent or independent need to select? When the system uses this data and when the system uses the planned delivery days and in-house production days which is in mrp2? Pls advise.

Dear,
Planned Delivery Time use for external procurement Like raw materials.
In-house production time use for in house manufacture materials like HELB and FERT.
In-house production time is independent of the order quantity.
Lot size depnendent timing calculate from the routing. It is calculated byadding the lead times of all operations, the float before production, and the float after production.
You schedule the routing for a base qty The in the scheduling results screen click the button" scheduling results"
You will get the results screen in days.
In that screen at the botton there is abutton update material master.
After this go to CA96 There update the material master.
Please refer this link,
Re: set up time dependant and independant of order qty
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Lot size Key without splitting Quota

Hi,
Can any one explain me what is the use of Lot size Key without splitting Quota.
We had created a lot size Key - XY with following seting:-
1) Lotsize Proceed = P
2) Lotsize indicator -K
3) Scheduling =2
4) No of periods = 1
5) Splitting Quota = Not checked(blank)
If we had configured this lot size key, what is the benefits of the above setting, What testing need to be done to know whether this lot size key is working perfectly after configuration?.
Thanks in advance

Hi,
If splitting quota indicator not set, then qouta arrangement is not used during planning wrt to selected lot size.
Lot size procedure you selected, it is a periodic lot sizing procedure. Here the system groups several requirements within a time interval together to form a lot.
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Scheduling -
This indicator defines the time in the period the system is to create the availability date or the start date for the lot for period
lot-sizing procedures.
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In in-house production, the start date is the order start date, in external procurement the start date is the release date.
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Post the results what you get.
Regards,
Pavan

Lot size in MTO

Hi Experts,
I am using strategy 20, my FG batch size is 100 and i have a sale order of 120. I want the system to create 2 planned orders of 100 and 20. I tried with lot size EX and maximum lot size 20, but system made a single planned order of 120. Have i made any mistake, how can i address my requirement ? Please advise.
Best regards
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Dear ,
In MTO process , sales order qty can't not be spillited beacause , MRP system will not generate planned order detail scheduling to match the Schedule Delivery Date in Sales Order line item .
If you maintain lot size as EX and max lot size is 100 for the quantity of 120,system will create total 2 planned orders.Out of 2 numbers 1 will be with qty 100 and second one will be 20.In OMI4 open the details screen of the lot size which u are using
in the details screen there is a indicator LAST LOT EXACT now if u tick this indicator then the system will create the last lot exact
Basically , your requirement can be done through MTS which will possible .
Hope it is clear
Regards
JH

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HI All,
Guys i configured M.R.P Type and M.R.P Controller, but I am unable to understand the M.R.P Lot size?
while i am creating a material in mm01 lot size is not allowing me to chose any other option except EX-Lot for Lot Order quantity.. could any one suggest why is it so..?
Thanks and Regards,
Chinta
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Feb 17, 2012 11:46 AM

> while i am creating a material in mm01 lot size is not allowing me to chose any other option except EX-Lot for Lot Order quantity.. could any one suggest why is it so..?
Do you mean you can see all the lot sizes but system is not allowing to select or you can see only EX? Because only "EX" lot size doesnt require further data. But if you select any other lot sizes like "FX - fixed lot", you also need to enter the fixed lot size value in fixed value. if you are dealing with CBP, below are the important lot sized to use.
Lot-for-Lot Order Quantity
Fixed Lot Size
Replenishment up to Maximum Stock Level
Check this SAP site to know more
[Lot size|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_40b/helpdata/en/7d/c27177454011d182b40000e829fbfe/content.htm]

MRP Lot Size Difference

Hi All
In OMI4 ie. MRP lot size procedure i see several MRP lot sizes i.e. EX, WB etc....
But only major difference i find is in terms of scheduling i.e.
Blank (Requirement date = delivery date), 1 (period start = delivery date), & so on i.e. 2, 3, 4
Can anyone tell how it works?????? What is its significance
Example would be very good for me
Please suggest
Rgds

Hi Vicky,
Requirement date = delivery date
Planning or procurement proposal will create on req date
Period start = Delivery date
Planning or procurement proposal will create on period start.
ie, if you use period lot size WB,MB.
WB means weekly lot size ie, on Monday cumulated requirement will create for that week. Same for MB, month end planning proposal will create.
Period End = Delivery date
ie, if you use period lot size WB,MB.
On Saturday cumulated requirement will create for that week if you use WB. Same for MB.
This concept will not work if you use planning time fence.
Regards,
Dharma
Regards,
Dharma

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we are in the implementation phase of the project (PPDS) and need your help.
For the products we have the data of Maximum Lot Size, that is a constrain for the process. But when we execute manual adjustments/creation of the planned orders, this maximum lot size is not respected, because for the manual orders is used the heuristic SAP_PP_001 Change Order Manually.
We need to consider the maximum lot size even for manual adjustments/creation.
Does anyone knows a way to consider the maximum lot size when create orders manually?
Thanks in advance
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Hi Hans,
If as per the requirement you want the system to take into account the period of 63 days reqirement , then as my experience the lot size field should be changed from the daily lot size .......or else the setting is quite redundant in nature........in accordance to your business requirement.
Check for the period lot sizing for detail information..........incase you have any query then let me know ......
Please reward points if it is helpful.........
Thanks
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Help on Planning Calender and lot size procedure settings

Hi Gurus,
We have 2 different schedule at the moment for our PO Placing to our supplier :
1. Planning Calendar D01 --> For Seafreight shipment, PO Placing on bi-weekly basis, every Monday and RDD (Request Delivery Date) is on Thursday (11 days after PO Placing)
2. Planning Calendar D02 --> For Airfreight shipment, PO Placing on weekly basis, every Friday and RDD (Request Delivery Date) is on Wednesday (5 days after PO Placing)
Now we have required to change the SEAFREIGHT process by having the PO Placing on weekly basis, every Monday and RDD (Request Delivery Date) is on Wednesday (9 days after PO Placing).
Please let me know the step by step procedure to create a new Planning Calendar and Lot Size Procedure to accomodate this requirement?
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Regards
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Dear Brijesh:
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