Moving the faders on control surface records midi parts on tracks..

moving the faders on control surface records midi parts on tracks that aren't being recorded.. How can I disable this?
Euphonix MC Mix

Are your MC Mix in Eucon mode? If you use a midi mode, there's a possibility the MC Mix is sending MIDI messages. And are you sure we're talking midi parts and not automation?

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I'm recording 4 tracks for a choir, I'd like to record them separately, and be able to burn 5 tracks to a CD: the 4 separated parts as well as a track with them all merged. I've already recorded the 4 tracks in Garageband. Is this possible???
Thanks!!

As Steve said, by soloing a GB Track you can export just that Track. You should Share to iTunes (full quality) then you can burn the CD from there once you have them all in. GB will only do one burn at a time to a CD so you couldn't get multiple (CD) tracks. (Let's make sure we're clear on language and the difference between a Track in GB and a song, or track on a CD. When you say you've recorded 4 tracks in GB I'm assuming you mean one song with 4 parts, each on its own Track.)

Random sound generated from external midi device even without a song opened... How to uninstall external control surfaces?

Recently bought systems used :
     Roland FA-08 workstation
     Mixingtable with USB connection Yamaha MG12XU
     Mac Os X 10.9.4 Maverick with Logic Pro X 10.0.7
for each system the latest usb-drivers are installed
Problem :
I get random noises generated (non-stop) from the connected synthesizer FA08 starting up Logic, even without a song opened.
(My midi local is switched of, that's not the solution)
The problem started (i think) installing the Mackie control for the DAW use as was suggested by the Roland manual
in Logic Pro X > Control Surfaces > setup...
Other than my remote control i now have Mackie controllers that i can not remove from the setup. Right click says 'delete' but
they are not deleted, the program even crashed once. Reinstalling Logic does not remove them either.
I read somewhere that there should be a 'controller rebuild'-command but that doesn't seem to exist.
And i have no idea why in the 'inspector', the host of the Mackie Control seems to be my I-pad (?)
I suspect that te problem is either some midi/usb driver conflict when used with Mavericks
or te use of the mackie controller conflicting with
the audio-bord of the yamaha mixing console MG 12XU (which seems to be working fine) or with the DAW controller of the FA 08
Audio/Midi setup of my computer seems to be installed correctly.
How can i uninstall this controller settings ?
Anyone has an idea why i get random noise generated?
Anyhow, it is impossible working with Logic this way..
Please help..

In case you need to get back the default Logic control surface setup you can delete the Control Surface preference file and the default file will be rebuilt. It's a good way to get back to Logic's initial control surface setting. Also, if you had chosen to edit the Logic Remote CS entry instead of remove it there are adjustments that can be made, like disabling Active Sensing, or even disabling "Flash Mute and Solo Buttons" on the basic Control Surface Preferences pane.
Deleting the Logic 10 Control Surface Prefs.
In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder from the menu.
Type ~/Library/Preferences in the "Go to the folder" field.
Press the Go button.
Delete the com.apple.logic.pro.cs file from the preferences folder.
Note: to get to the User-Library the tilde ~ has to be included.        ~/Library/Preferences

Issues re Tascam FW-1082 & FW-1884 control surface - integration with FCP

The joint Tascam/Apple release put out in 2005 touting seamless compatibility between these two products (see below) turns out to be a gross exageration. Basic functions are conceivably compatible, but some do not work and there is a paucity of documentation available. The many buttons and controls on the Tascam's control surfaces are rendered useless. The consumer consumer has been wronged and these are not cheap products. Countless similar posts on this site backs me up on this.
I have the Tascam fw-1884, which has the same setup as the 1082. Have any of you been able to assign quick keys on the tascam using the keyboard customization tool in FCP? I've followed the example on Tascam's support site, but it does not seem to work.
Also, looking for more documentation/tutorials/consultants who can help me master all the features of the Tascam with FCP 5.
Thanks,
David
TASCAM interfaces now compatible with Apple®'s
Final Cut® Pro 5 & Soundtrack Pro
MCP (Mackie Control Protocol) onboard Final Cut Pro 5 allows the use of external audio control surfaces to edit and manipulate audio
Montebello, CA—April 16, 2005—TASCAM's full line of FireWire audio control surfaces and interfaces are now compatible with Apple®'s Final Cut Pro 5 and Soundtrack Pro editing software with Apple's unveiling of the Final Cut® Studio production suite that includes the Final Cut Pro® 5 upgrade.
This major upgrade to the Apple's Emmy award-winning software means that Final Cut Pro 5 and Soundtrack Pro are now fully compatible with MCP (Mackie Control Protocol) devices, so you can use external audio control surfaces— including TASCAM's FW-1884 or FW-1082—to edit and manipulate audio more efficiently.
TASCAM's newest audio controller, the FW-1082, has nine motorized faders for adjusting audio levels during mix playback utilizing the revamped software. Editors can turn up a dialog line or reduce the music level during a voiceover section without clicking on breakpoints. Just grab a fader and go! The transport buttons can be used to start and stop playback in any editor that supports the Mackie Control or Mackie HUI. TASCAM's FW-1082 also has a MIDI fader mode that can be used in programs like Apple Motion 2 to adjust parameters in real-time during playback. And since it's an audio interface as well, producers can record voiceover and sound effects right in the edit suite with professional results.
The FW-1082 has four mic inputs, four line ins and S/PDIF digital in and out – all available at 96kHz. It features 10 inputs, including four balanced XLR mic inputs with phantom power. Eight channel strips each feature a 60mm touch-sensitive moving fader and select/solo/mute buttons, and a moving master fader.
For even more I/O and surface control, the FW-1884 offers 18-channels of inputs (eight analog and eight ADAT digital and two S/PDIF coaxial or optical), eight balanced XLR mic/line inputs with high-quality mic preamps and phantom power, plus nine 100mm motorized touch-sensitive faders.
G4 dual processor 1.25mhz Mac OS X (10.4.6) FCP 5.1.1

So after writing this question I closed the laptop, leaving the Tascam on & connected. Returned 30 mins later to see if anyone had replied (where are you all??!!), opened the laptop & the Tascam suddenly springs to lift, faders move & Soft LCD app shows activity correctly.
So, all appears to be OK although I don't really know why...!!

Mixer or control surface

can anbody please recommend me which one i should go for..?
mixer or control surface?
the alesis products has stole my attention with its sleek design, im thinking of buying either their MultiMix 8 FireWire or master control..
i use my logic mostly for recording acoustic guitar and vocal..
please make me clear of waht are the advantages of control surface or mixer.
thank you!

Hi, one of the great advantage not mencioned above about mixers is you can use the sends and returns of the mixer to route hardware effect processors, about to record the guitar and the vocal at the same time i´m not agree beacause your mics pic a mix of both in each of the two diferent tracks even if you use one mic for guitar and another for vocals. It is not the way to go. The most important to get good recordings from vocal and acoustic guitars is how good are your mic preamp and your mics. But a mixer is an essencial tool in a studio environement. Me too i records guitars both electric and acoustic, i havent yet a mixer, but i use a SSL XLOGIC Superannalogue channel and a Nueman U87 mic. The result are miles away from using software emulation amps. But the budget too, I don´t belive that the Tascam pre amp are enought good for recotding acoustic guitars and vocals. recording acoustic guitar and vocalsi t is one of the most difficult taske to achieve with satisfactory results. I think you must to learn more about studio recording mixing ect... before you buy anything, get your own budget and with your knowledge try to buy the best possible adapted to your own budget.
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Can Anyone Help Me Set Up My M-Audio Radium As A Control Surface?

Hi Everyone,
I just bought a new keyboard (M-Audio Radium) because the old one died. There's a bunch of knobs and sliders that I hear can be used as a control surface. However, when I follow the manual there seems to be several discrepancies between what it shows and what the Logic-Preferences-Control Surfaces interface shows. So if someone could be so kind as to point me in the right direction as to the proper way to set this up, I'd appreciate it. P.S. The more that you can walk me through it the better. Thanks

I just picked up an Oxygen8v2...it just has 8 knobs and transport controls. First off, I saw a video on a guy using this with Logic, and he opened the Enigma software that is for editing M-Audio controllers. He went to the Keystation88 preset, and there is a Logic template. He just literally copied the item he wanted, say, the Stop button, and then opened the Oxygen8v2 panel and pasted it over the Stop on that template. Seems to make sense, but, I do it, and it doesn't work at all.
So, I just spent an hour figuring this out. Here's the only way so far I got this to work. First off, none of the M-audio boards are in the Controller window, or, they are not Natively supported in Logic. Why? Who knows, they are only the largest supplier of these things. Anyway, for the transport controls, I went to the Key Assignments... window, and found the stop line, clicked on Learn Assignment button, and hit the stop button on my Oxygen8v2. Works great. I did that for all the transport buttons.
Now, of the 8 knobs, the last 2 already seem to control the pan and track levels, just luck I think that the preset controller numbers match Logic's. So, I want to assign one of the other knobs to the Send level of Bus 1, another to Bus 2. Now I had to open the Controller Assignments... window. Clicked on Send 1 in Logic, and the window then said Send 1, I hit Learn, and twiddled the knob, and hit Learn again to stop, and it worked. I did the same for send 2 and knob 2...BUT, something still isn't quite right. The send 1 knob works, but the send 2 knob goes all on and all off when I turn the knob...it's not seeing all the values, just on and off. Tried it 10 times, and it still isn't working. Don't know.
I was very surprised to not find any Logic stuff for these M-Audio controllers. Both are some of the most popular software/hardware out there, yet it's as if Logic doesn't exist to M-Audio (I know, ProTools, ProTools, ProTools...)

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Using a Control Surface with the Clip Mixer

I'm contemplating purchasing a Mackie MCU to help automate some of the volume edits I have to make using 5 tracks in the Audio Clip Mixer over 80 hours of video. I've tried to contact Adobe support, but they are about as cluless as a bag of hammers. When I asked if the clip mixer works with a control surface (after 4 calls and 4 different agents) I was told no. Which is total BS as there is toggle in the clip mixer called "Toggle Control Surface Clip Mixer Mode". They read from scripts and have no clue what they are talking about. I guess I should not be surprised as its an outsourced call center staffed with drones who have never even used the software, much less in production! Adobe you should be ashamed of your support, it's appauling! (BTW I own an online Magazine in the 3d industry and will be writting an article about your appauling support soon)
Anyway, onto my specific questions:
1) The Mackie MCU has overlay cards for button mappings for many different apps, but PP is not one of them. What functionaliy is mapped to the control surface specially from PP and the clipmixer?
2) Is there a way to group channels so that keyframes can be written to multiple clips at the same time by using one fader?
3) In the clip mixer there is a keyframe toggle, does such a toggle translate to the control surface?
4) Sometimes I want to manually keyframe, rather thanan make adjustments while the playhead is moving, so I will simply click the fader slider to write a keyframe, manually move the playhead and then adjust the fader to write the subsequent keyframes. As faders on a control surface can not be pushed like a button, is there a way to generate a keyframe from the control surface?
5) Are there any known limitations using the control surface vs the software for both the clip and track mixers?
Jeff

The Mackie device has some quirks, and while basic functionality is there, PPro does not have as strong support with mackie as it does with eucon through the avid artist series. The physical MCU keys switched between different versions of the device and what is undo on one is a different function on another, so sadly, depending on what model you get, those buttons may or may not be correct by the label that is on the device. There is no way for us to tell which one you have.
Clip mixer mode can be enabled either through the fly out menu in the clip mixer or by assigning a keyboard shortcut. When engaged, it supports the faders, pan/balance/mute and solo. If automation is engaged it will record automation, though you can't engage clip mixer automation via the control surface like you can on the track mixer.
Unfortunately there is no way to group channels at this time, aside from making a submix, but I do not think this is what you were requesting.
There is not a way to manually enter a keyframe via a button on the control surface.
It is possible to customize some of the control surface buttons by hitting the button assignments button in the Mackie control surface window. This is mostly limited to the function keys and a few others
The touch and latch mode lights is a known bug.
If you want more customization, the Avid Artist series has much better support in this regard. We set up many soft keys, but you can also create your own very easily.
I will take a look at the other issues you have raised as they sound like bugs, but I also encourage you to file them through here: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform as it will help us to gauge how many are using the mackie protocol vs eucon.
Thanks
Todd

Info please...control surface and mixer for fcp and audio recording

i'm looking for a control surface for final cut pro and also xlr/line inputs for recording guitar and vocals in cubase or audacity.
read all the info here after numerous searches. still some questions.
was looking at the tascam 1082 but not sure of the build quality...i saw one and it looked a bit cheaply built. the two demos at guitar center were falling apart. didn't look nearly as well built as the mackie. also i have been reading here and elsewhere about bugs/problems etc.
was looking at the m-audio...not sure about that one...$1250...
was also looking at mackie control surface...but no firewire...how do you hook it up to a mac? also no audio inputs. what would i need to buy to work in conjunction with that for recording audio? if i bought the mackie, i'd still have to buy an audio inpur device and that would end up costing as much as the m audio.
i know i could just buy a mixer for recording and forget the control surface...i already have a shuttle pro which works fine and i have gotten used to using the mixer in fcp...no problems. but the motorized faders on a control surface sure would be nice
so questions:
how does the mackie connect to a mac and what other device(s) would i need to record audio and how would they hook up...would they play nice together?
ppl who own the tascam...happy with it? used the mic and line preamps? are they noisy?
do i need an additional firewire bus reguardless of which control surface i get?
how does one route the audio for these when in fcp? i currently route my audio through my dsr 11 deck. will the control surface just go through firewire or would i have to actually jack into the control surface with additional cables and have to remove my present cables from my speakers everytime i want to use the control surface?
sorry so many questions. it's really tough to make an informed decision in buying something if you don't understand the mechanics of it.
btw, appreciate the info so far that i found doing my searches.
thanks
carl

I've got the Tascam FW1082 and I absolutely love it. I can't believe I ever edited without it. I'm considering upgrading to the 1884 in the future.
As for the mic preamps, they sound great. Nice and clean. There's no such thing as a line preamp, but the line inputs are clean as well.
For routing, I go to the 1082 via firewire until I turn on my external video monitor, at which point I send both video & audio to the deck and route the audio from the deck into a pair of the mixer's analog inputs. That way you avoid the delay of external monitoring. The 1082 allows you to listen to both the computer & the inputs at the same time, so switching back and forth is seamless.
As for durability, I've had it out on a few location recordings, but most of the time it's on my desk. It's still in mint condition. I'm sure if it was on a display where any 10 year old could come mess with it, it wouldn't be in as great of shape, but then again, a Neve console wouldn't look that great if every little brat that walked in the door could play with it. If you take care of your stuff, you'll have no issues with this mixer.

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I am creating a software interface for a multidimensional controller which can transmit many linear values at the same time. I can not use Learn mode because it always sends data from all sources, but I can split them by MIDI channels. I would like to manually enter controlling values into Control Surface expert view.
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Second, what kind of pedals are they? Can you name the type of pedal too? The Yamaha what and the Mgear which?
Third, with the 4 fold data problem, are the doubled events simultaneous, or a few ticks apart, or more?
Also, you have no MIDI keyboard? Are the pedals both "standalone"?
I think you have to sort this problem at its' source, which are the pedals. You could, if push really comes to shove, perhaps create some sort of ingeneous/elaborate transformer setup in the environment to filter the extra messages, although with the 4/4 sustain events that may not even be possible. With the "stepped" events you could set up a filter to just block all events with values 20-110 or so.
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When I record midi instrument why is the first four beats silent?

Hello all, I have tried to search for an answer but I just cant seem to formulate the correct query in any search engine that can bring me back an answer.
I am trying to use the current version of Garageband, and I am recording a track with an Oxygen25 midi controller. In general, this seems to be working quite well but when I playback the track, the first four beats in the region are silent. I have tried everything I can think of, I can see the note down in the editor pane and when I click it, I hear the note but it just wont make a sound when I click play. I tried dragging the region over and playing back but that didn't fix it. I thought it had something to do with the count in but changing that doesn't seem to do anything for it either. I just tried to record my electric guitar using the ikmultimedia stealthplug adapter and noticed that it skips the first four beats as well but instead of making me wait 4 beats it just plays immediately at the 4th beat point which is kind of strange to me as well. I hope someone can understand what I am experiencing and make comment about this apparent lag I am experiencing.
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Don
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Version 10.10.1
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ok, just want to correct. it appears that moving the region 4 beats to the right corrects the issue but only if I start playback from the beginning, If I drag the cursor to the start of the region then it must wait 4 beats till sound starts coming out of the speakers. I also tried unchecking the 24 bit option in advanced preferences but that did not help either. so it appears it is simply some kind of playback lag bug of some sort. hoping it gets sorted since this makes it kind of aggravating to work with. I tried opening the older 6.0.5 Garageband and it does not have this issue but for some reason I cannot create a new guitar track, i have to create a software instrument track then change it to a guitar track. Also all my guitar amps are missing so it appears the older version is being slowly crippled with each new version of OS X.

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Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone could help me.
I have a Novation Remote 25 SL which its perfectly connected with Logic as a Control Surface.
What I want is to record live all the moments i do with Mixer in Logic using Remote Sl as a Control Surface while my track is playing. I want to record it to one channel strip or somewhere were i can edit them later. Is it possible? Thanks in advance.

Read the automation section in the manual.
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Or you can find a suitable controller such as the original Red Rover or something that supports Mackie control protocol.
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