Result Analysis , Settlement and Revenue
Dear Gurus,
I really appreciate if you can help me in resolving the below issue.
We are using results analysis and settlement processes in our project
We want to recognize the revenue before billing.
Is there any way I can post actual revene to financial accounting before doing
billing through Settlement.
I would be greatul to you guys if some one can help me at the earliest .
Thanks,
Viswas Anantharangachar
Hi,
In my understanding this is the requirement of Revenue recognition functionality implementation. This is more SD than PS function. Please use T-Code VF44 , or VF47.
Please remember that the RR functionality was not enough stable in the ver 4.7 so you must have ECC5 in place.
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Moderator: Thread locked due to cross posting.Hi
Please refer the below mentioned link
http://fuller.mit.edu/sb_support/media_lab/deferred_revenue_recog.htm
http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-log-sd/intercompany-revenue-recognition-process-3042637
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1. When you perform Results analysis, it does not post any accounting documents. Results analysis only does calcuation of WIP etc and when you do corresponding settlement like CO88(production order) or VA88 (sales order), it will post accounting entries.
2. It is not mandatory to have profitability segment as a receiver. If you are using COPA, then you would need to settle it to COPA in the end. For example in case of make to order environment, sales order can be used as a cost object and hence the receiver would be a sales order where all the costs would get settled.
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