Results analysis for a project to be settled to sales order rather than PSG
Hi Experts
My client has two company codes.
CC1 executes project construction for CC2. This is to be mapped as a customer project.
As far as project settlement is concerned, since PA is not activated, it is proposed to settle to sales order item.
In this situation, what would be effect of results analysis.
With out PA, how the postings need to be handled with WIP, Reserves, Inventory and Revenue.
warm regards
ramSiva
Hi,
I have had this problem earlier, If PA is not abailable you have put in the settlement rule as not to be settled.
And for the postings have to be managed using the GL accounts that we give in the result analysis configuration. There is not much flexibility for customization here in this scenario. But you can do as much as possible using the diffrent result analysis categories.
So for the reserves WIP inventory and revenue use result analysis category to segregate them by GL account
Thanks
Naveen
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As material ledger only works with valuated stock, we have moved the Project structure (ETO) from non valuated to valuated.
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However after changing to valuated, during goods receipt stock is upated and not cost. So we asked the client to consume the purchased material if they have to recognise the revenue.
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a) Note 78420 : To activate Function Module EXIT_SAPLKKAG_005 (contains include ZXKAGU05).This Function module takes into account the actual & plan costs of the assigned Production orders & Networks
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We have same material which is sometimes purchased and sometime produced.
Regards
Raghu.Hi
I can say something from theory but not much from sap config. perspective. You have not mentioned actual revenue since POC is calculated from
R(a)/R(p).How you have considered 100% poc?
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Adwait -
Hi Guys,
We use Results analysis for projects and also we use RA in Product Costing.
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I am trying to look for this over help.sap.com and google but could not find information on what exactly this term means.
Also how is this related to WIP?
Please clarify.
Thanks,
Srikanth.Dear srikusap,
Calculation WIP through the SAP, RA key will play important role. Work in process calculation is diferent from industry to industry.
In SAP RA key will shows the WIP amount while u running KKAX Transaciton Code. After when ever u do the settlement then ti will be settled to Financial Account. At that time A Accounting Document was generaged. when ever the Order Status is Teco then the provious period WIP will be reversed.
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Hello,
I would like to know, whether also the document flow for subitems is being checked while executing result analysis.
Example:
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Both of them have assigned the same result analysis key. Within this key it is defined in customizing (OKG3), that the Sales Order Structure is A-"Summarize Plan and Actual Data of Subitems on Highest Item"....so the result analysis for the sub-item is being performg via the higher-level item.
The higher-level positions is already completed - the delivery is made and also the invoice is created.
The sub-item is not completed - neighter delivery is made nor the invoice.
While executing the result analysis for the higher-level item, the status FNBL (final billing) is recognized and all cost are settled from WIP to CO-PA.
As far as I know, the document flow should be checked withitn the result analysis and based on this the status should be recognized.
Therefore It seems, that only the document flow from the higher-level item is being checked. If also the document flow from the sub-item is checked, there would be no way to get the status FNBL as the sub-item is not complete.
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I have tried to delete the result analysis key from the sub-item, but still the same result in result analysis...
Could you tell my the consequences from the 1A setup from the note? It is adviced withitn the note to not use the 1A setup. But we use this and it works fine. Just some messages during the result analysis, that it could not be performed for sub-items, but this has no influence on the values.
Regards
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Edited by: Peter Jankech on Jun 9, 2010 8:57 AM -
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WE have "Non Valuated KMAT Sales Order Stock" scenario.
It posts COS at time of settlement of Sales Order. Everything works fine. We have a new scenario.
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I have CoArea/CoCd/RAVersion/RACategory for COSR.
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created two Result Analysis keys.one for Regular one and one for Interco
created two usages one for interco business and one for regular one and which is populated each sales order line item.
based on usage,RA key populated.
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When i am trying to execute KKA1 I am getting this message " Results analysis data was not changed
Message no. KJ240"
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Appreciate if you can explain the month end process for refurbishment order in detail.
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The default settlement rule for refurbishment ordrers is FUL rule to material. This type of rules defines the business scenario where the actual costs are settled only after the order is delivered or technically completed. In such cases the most used solution to monitor costs incurred on the order is to assign a results analysis key to the order and compute the so-called work in process (WIP). WIP (if computed) is equal to the actual costs on the order and it is posted to a WIP account when settling the order before DLV or TECO. When the order is delivered or technically completed, WIP calculation reverse WIP in CO
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Dear Experts,
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ShareeqDear Ahemad,
In what would be the output of the result analysis ?I mean from sales point of view if u see then u will have to develop the report accordingly.
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How to execute Result analysis for a Single order?
HI,
I need to execute Result analysis for a single process order. But i found cumulative RA. Can any one provide the Individual Result analysis execution T.code?
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KBHi,
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Rau -
Results analysis for sales orders- actual costs/ revenues - (kka3-kkak)
Hi, i have a problem when I execute the individual results analysis for sales orders (kka3) I can see actual revenues and actual costs, however when I execute the collective processing (kkak) for the results analysis I don´t see these (actual revenues and costs). Is it normal? How can I see these in the collective processing?
Could be one of these possibilities:
1) Controlling Area set is wrong
2) You're input parameters are insufficient to get that sales order. Check Order Type etc you input in the main screen
3) The master data is wrong which is not allowing the link to the Sales Order. You would have to check each field thoroughly.
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Results Analysis for Sales Orders
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When i am calculting Results Analysis for Sales Orders as a part of Month End Closing Activities there are some errors for few orders...
Msg Type: E
AppAr: KJ
MsgNo: 216
Message Text: Planned Cost for Valuation are 0. Please Check the Object.
Can any one tell me what might be the error..
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SivaramHi,
The error is offen caused by one or possible more than one of following statements:
- the delivery block of the order is set
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- the schedule line ( confirmed quantity ) is missing
- the position has been cancelled
- price condition is missing
In case no one of the mentioned options wouldn''t help, set the position status to technically completed, if the position is processed as well ( delivery, invoice, etc. ).
We often face this kind of issue
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Marian -
Settlement for month-end closing, individual production or sales order
Dear SAP Experts,
Our style is MTO.
In month-end closing, we follow to make a settlement for production orders:
1. CO43 -- Actual overhead calculation (collective processing)
2. KSU5 -- Actual allocations Assessment
3. KSII -- Actual Price Calculation
4. CON2 -- Revaluation at actual prices (collective processing)
5. KKAO -- WIP calculation (collective processing)
6. CO88 -- Production order settlement (collective processing)
Question:
1. What kind accounts will be effected after above each step?
2. does individual production settlement need step 1-4 in above?
1. KKAX (Work in Process)
2. KO88 (Settlement)
Is those enough?
3. What kind account will be effected after va44 processing?
Any tips will be welcome.
Zhou ZhenHi,
The value flow completely different for each of the MTO Scenario.
I need to know what kind of MTO scenario you have.
is it MTO - Valuated Sale Order without Sale Order Controlling
Is it MTO - Valuated Sale Order with Sale Order Controling
is it MTO- Non-valuated Sale Order (Sale Order controlling is mandatory)
based on this the value flows and the transaction that need to be executed will differ.
The way you explained i presume that it could be any of the first two scenarios.
in such case, the value flows are as good as make to stock scenario. Only in the third scenario, the value flow completely changes
For 1. What kind accounts will be effected after above each step?
all the accounts relevant for Make to Stock will get affected. But the the scenario is MTO - Valuated Sale Order with Sale Order Controling, the the variances from production order is settled to Sale order instead of settling to COPA.
For 2. does individual production settlement need step 1-4 in above?
All the steps from 1 to 6 are necessary for any of the above 3 scenarios
For 3. What kind account will be effected after va44 processing?
This is for calculating the overheads on the sale order. in this case, the sale order is a controlling object. once this t.code is executed, you can see the oh being calculated on the sale order
Hope this will give some good isight in to various MTO scenarios
Best Regards
Surya -
Settlement of Sale Order issue.
Dear friends
I am getting the following error while settling the Sale Order in VA88.
Please guide me in this issue, how to handle?
There are no accrued amounts; settlement is not possible.
Message no. KD256
Diagnosis
The sender has a results analysis key, but no accrued values.
Either the accrual was not yet started for the sender, or the values to be settled from the accrual equal zero.
Note
Actual costs are only settled once the sender is technically completed or finally delivered.
This applies to
Projects that cannot carry revenues
In Service Management for sales order production to the indicator (Calculate WIP for orders in sales order production) set in the accrual version for
Production orders
Internal orders with no revenues
Orders with no revenues
In Service Management for engineer-to-order production to the indicator (Calculate WIP for orders in engineer-to-order production ) set in the accrual version for
Internal orders with no revenues
Orders with no revenues
In Service Management to the indicator (Calculate WIP for internal and service orders with no revenues) set in the accrual version for
Internal orders with no revenues
Orders with no revenues
To the indicator (Calculate WIP for production orders without settlement to material) set in the accrual version for
Production orders without settlement to material
Procedure
1. If necessary, start the accrual calculation for the sender
2. Restart settlementNow I am getting another error.
Complete PA transfer structure ZR
Message no. KD514
Diagnosis
There is no value field assignment for cost element 911400 / *_variance category COSR_* in PA transfer structure ZR, or
PA transfer structure ZR has no assignments, or
No "Origin" is maintained for the assignments in PA transfer structure ZR (cost element group and, if applicable, variance category)
When I see the Variance Category I didnt find any Variance Category COSR?
What could be the reason.
Thanks in advance
Kiran -
MTO - Settlement of Sales Order to COPA
Hi,
We have a scenario wherein production order is created with reference to Sales order.
No standard / Sale order BOM is maintained. As such no cost estimate is available for either Header material or sales order. Header material does not have any value.
Goods are issued to production order with reference to such sales order, as special stock. So consumption posted to Sales order.
Revenue is captured on Sales order.
At this point of time, can I settle the sales order through VA88. What all will it settle.
Is RA excution a must for VA88 settlement?
Please suggest.HI,
if you need to have WIP-value posting, result analysis is a must before settlement.
Best regards, Christian -
Dear All,
I am trying to do the Settlement to Sales Order.
In the Project I maintain the Settlement Rule for the Each and Every WBS as uppar WBS, and the Final Upper WBS/ 1st Level WBS i maintained to Settlement Rule to Sales Order Lilne Item. ( Before i created Sales Order and I assinged 1st Level WBS to that Sales Order)
When i am doing Settlement Rule for the 1st level WBS, system shows, the following mesage
The sales document is assigned to WBS element XXXXX
Message no. V1139
Diagnosis
The sales order item contains a project account assignment.
Procedure
Enter the number of a work breakdown structure element which is included in the same project definition as the work breakdown structure element from the sales order item or assign a sales order item without project assignment.
RegardsAs your scenario is of Assembly processing. You have to consider how the requirement type & Requirment class get determined for the Material entered in your Sales Order. You might be aware but check below link how the requirement type & Class get determined in case of Assembly processing.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/ab/5d487a733311d2b6600000e82d8bd1/content.htm
Either you might be using SD Item Category or Material Master Main Stretgy will be prevailing for determining requirement type. From that you find the Requirement class And in requirement class there will Acct. Assign Category ..
Also check you customization in below nod.
IMG>PS>Material>Control of Sales-Order-Related Production>Selection of Requirements Type Through MRP Group
IMG>PS>Material>Control of Sales-Order-Related Production>Selection of Requirements Type Through SD Item Category
With Regards
Nitin P. -
Settlement of Sale Order to Sale Order
Dear experts
I need help in the following scenario:
At my client place we are doing job work for external material. All the material are supplied by the customer and our client will do the processing and send it back to customer's customer on customers request.
To create Excise Invoice against the Customers Customer we are handling through 2 sale orders.
First One Sale order will be created against the Customer Order and Sale price will be the selling price of Customers to Customer.
Second Sale Order will be created for Job Work Charges for the processing the materials.
On settling the process orders all the cost is settling to Sale Order One, Clients revenue is coming from Sale Order Two.
Here I need to settle the First Sale Order to Second Sale Order. I have given the second sale Order number in first sale order number in Settlement rule.
But when I settle the First sale Order all the amount it going to Price Differance Account.
How to settle the Cost of First Sale Order to Second Sale Order?
Regards
Kiran ADear Experts
any advises.
Can I go for Sale Order to Sale Order Settlement ?
Regards
Kiran
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