Reversal of subcontracting
hi
generally we r sending rawmaterials and we r getting finished product from subcontracter
my problem is i have send a assembled product to subcontracter and he has to dismandle it and send back the dismandled products how can i approch this.
help me in this
Hi,
Suppose Material code for Assembly is - X
And Material codes for components after dismantle will be - A, B, C
Then create a BOM for any of the component for e.g. A and maintain materials X, B and C as components under it in CS01.
Here only keep in mind that
For 1 qty of A, keep 1 qty of X and -1 qty of B and C
And then create a Subcon PO for material "A" in ME21N and specify dismantle charges in PO
Do transfer posting of "X" in MB1B w.r.t. Subcon PO (Using mvmt type - 541)
Goods Receipt of A w.r.t. Subcon PO in MIGO, (Here "A" will get received by 101, "X" will get consumed by 543 O from Subcontractor Stock, "B" and "C" will get received in Subcontractor stock via 545 O)
Now do transfer posting of "B" and "C" in MB1B (Using mvmt type - 542)
MIRO - LIV for dismantle charges w.r.t. Subcon PO
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MAP change after GR reversal for subcontracting PO
Dear experts,
I am facing problem that the MAP of component changed after GR reversal for subcontracting PO. The posting date of GR is the same date with reversal date, lets say component A in accounting document during GR is $31 when reversing the MAP $19. FYI, I am using batch valuation. Does any body share with me, appreciate any responses.
Best regards,
mahnansaIn accounting document is reflected the component cost was $31 while after reversal (MT 102) the cost in accounting document $19.
Dear you mean to say during GR of subcontractiong accounting document price of that component is $31 and during Reversal of same subcontracting document GR it is showing $19 if my understanding is correct then there might be some other goods movements might have happened in due time which could have changed the component price as it is a MAP so analyse the same in MB51.
Cheers
KK -
No accounting documents generated while reversing the subcontract challan
Dear Friends,
Could any of you pls clarify the following process.
__Reversal & Recredit of subcontracting challan.__
Step1- Created sc po
Step2- Did 541 (mb1b)
Step3- Created sc challan (J1IF01)
Step4- Did the GR (Partial)
Step5- Partial reconciliatin of challan (J1IFQ)
When the rest of the finished products arrives , the challan exceeds 180 days.
Now I have to reverse the challan & then have to reconcile the challan.
After I have to take recredit & complete the challan.
But the problem is there is no accounting document is generated after reversing the challan although the status of the challan is showing reversed. In J1IF13 the reversal base value is picked from the J1ID assessable value for the component. But the Reversal BED,Reversal ECS,Reversal TAX1 fields are blank.
R PandaHello,
You create subcontracting challan so that you do not pay any duties when you send the components to the vendor ( Subcontractor ). So whn you cancel or reconcile ther will be no accounting entry. Material should come back within 180 days of time frame.
Regards,
Shailesh -
Reversal of subcontracting challan not taking place
Sirs,
I am having problems in cancelling a subcontracting challan. The error that i am getting is that the challan is in status C. Any links on Subcontracting cycle with CIN.
regardsHI,
Process for Subcontracting in CIN
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - FV11 for service tax and cess
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - ME21N
RELEASE STRATERGY FOR PURCHASE ORDER - ME28
TRANSFER POSTING OF CHILD PARTS TO SUB-CONTRACTOR - MB1B 541 Mvt Type
SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN - J1ILN
GOODS RECIEPT - MIGO
RECONCILING SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN - J1IFQ
INVOICE VERIFICATION - MIRO
Thanks & Regards,
Kiran -
Reversing subcontracted finished goods that came from customer returns.
Dear Gurus,
I have a scenario where the finished goods that came from subcontracting needs to be reversed back to its components without reversing the subcontracting charges. How to process this scenario in SAP.
The subcontracting job is packing. The individual materials will be sent to vendor and vendor will return the packed finished product. The packed material will then be sold. The materials that came back as customer returns due to quality reasons is unpacked and reverted back to its components.
How to process this reverting of the packed finished goods back to its components in SAP.
I understand one thing that reversal of subcontracting GR without reversing the subcontracting charges is not possible and it is not a proper procedure. I am unable to trace a way to process this using other indivdual movement types too.
Kindly suggest and Thanks in advance.
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Edited by: pradeep.spk on Oct 24, 2011 7:14 AMThanks for your reply Nishant but the problem is subcontracting charges should not be cancelled. The packing job done by vendor was paid and it is irrevokable.
The Finished goods returned from customer should be reduced from inventory and its components should be added back so that we can scrap the defective components and do our further processing using the good components.
The requirement is how to process the reduction of the finished goods from inventory and add the components back to inventory in SAP.
Thanks in advance.
Edited by: pradeep.spk on Oct 24, 2011 10:51 AM -
Reversing process or Subcontract Challan
Hi,
I want to know how to cancel the subcontrcat challn also in status of challna therte are reverse , cancel and delete what is exact diffrenece in all this i want to cancel my challan and also material docuemnt what is use of reverse process also in status there is also posted what is men by if status is posted as if we close it status is comleted .
regards,
zafarHi,
The process is like
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - FV11 for service tax and cess
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - ME21N
RELEASE STRATERGY FOR PURCHASE ORDER - ME28
TRANSFER POSTING OF CHILD PARTS TO SUB-CONTRACTOR - MB1B 541 Mvt Type
SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN - J1ILN
GOODS RECIEPT - MIGO
RECONCILING SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN - J1IFQ
INVOICE VERIFICATION - MIRO
For reversal Status C is for Completed. Go to J1IF11 and give Challan No and inside Try to Delete items.
Also try to Reverse the Subcontracting Challan in J1IF13.
Please go through below link is a little Explanatory in your case,
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm -
EXCISE SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN REVERSAL
Hi!
we are using TAXINN in ECC5.0. we are creating subcontracting challan after maintianing assessable value and excise rates 16% BED, 2% ECS and 1% SEC ECS for the chapter id. When we are trying to reverse the subcontracting challan, the duty values are not calculated in the challan. we have also maintained excise indicator for the vendor and also excise details.
Can anybody help us out?
Thanking you in advance
GaneshHi,
against which document you are reversing it 541 0r 542 material document check following link
[Subcontract Challan;
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/ru/1c/d6a1d82b5611d4ae1700105a16d13d/content.htm]
Regards
kailas Ugale -
Unable to reverse subcontracting challan J1IF13
Hi,
I have a scenario where I am trying to reverse a subcontracting challan using J1IF13 Tcode but an error is coming that Assesseble value of material is 0.
The assesseble valu is 0 in subcontracting challan (created using J1if01).However the entry was maintained in J1ID.
Please tell me how to reverse the challan now.
Regards,hi,
The excise details and assessable value was maintained in J1ID,but I dont know why the value was not picked when creating subcontracting challan using J1IF01.I have already saned the challan with 0 assessable value.
But now I want to reverse the challan using J1IF13,but it is giving an error that the assessable value is 0.
Please tell how to reverse the challan now.
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Automatic Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challans
Dear SAP Gurus,
Is at possible to reconcile and complete/reverse the subcontracting challans automatically after MIGO?
If yes, please guide me over this.
Regards,
nitin
Edited by: NITIN RAUT on May 6, 2008 12:55 PM
Edited by: NITIN RAUT on May 6, 2008 12:58 PMHi
Challan numbering will be per excise series group.
Please check the org data fed during creation of challan through J1IF01.
Warm regards
sairam akundi -
Material Split(Disassemble)
Dear Expert.
After one material was stocked (GR), the worker splited the material into two materials.
(It is reverse of subcontract)
That is.
1) GR : AB Material 1Qty.
2) Split : AB Material issue 1Qty
A Material GR 1 Qty
B Material GR 1 Qty
I can't find a suitable process.
Let me know how to handle it.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
KilNamHi
This is only applicable if your system is IS- Retail
319 Splitting up structured material into components (Retail)
You can enter the splitting up of a structured material manually using movement type 319.
You can configure Customizing so that a structured material (for example, a set, prepack, or display is automatically split up into its components at the time of goods receipt. The system posts the split using movement type 319. In this process, the BOM header material is posted and each of the component stocks are increased. You can also use this function if you use the Warehouse Management System (LE-WM).
Possible special stock indicators:
None
Example:
A box of the structured material S contains 3 pieces of the component K1 and 4 pieces of the component K2. The following material document items result after the material is split up upon goods receipt:
Qty Unit Material Movement type
1 box S 101 +
1 box S 319 -
4 piece K1 319 +
5 piece K2 319 + -
Error in J1IF13 Tcode Challan completion
When reversing the subcontracting challan using t.code: J1if13 getting below error message. Please help in resolving the issue
Balance in transaction currency
Message no. F5702
Diagnosis
A balance has occurred in transaction currency 'INR' with the following details:
Exchange rate '00', amount ' 0.03' and currency key 'INR'.
The data in the transaction currency were transferred from the calling application.
System Response
Your data cannot be processed in FI.
Procedure
The error is probably in the calling application.Hi,
Please check the following SAP OSS note
Note 1071752 - Reversing of the cenvat credit in subcontracting.
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How to use BAPI_GOODSMVT_CREATE for MBRL/MB01
Dear All,
Im requesting support from you that issue i'm currently facing.
Normally we are going sub contracting process..
it means we are issueng raw material to vendor and getting back finish goods from vendor through subconreacting PO.
When we do the MIGO we are getting the finished good through movement type 101 and raw materials at vendor location are consumed through movement type 543.
Above everything is working fine...
But my problem is reverse the subcontracting PO theough a BAPI..
In other way i wann implement MBRL or MB01 through a bapi...
Please let me know a suitable BAPI and parameters to acomplish this task...
Thank you...Hi Bhaskar,
Additionally i want to add below error message generated by BAPI_GOODSMVT_CREATE when i'm using 102 movement type.
E- M7 -
389 - Of the required quantity of material SL108, 0.058 KG remain(s) open
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Duties Reversal in case of subcontracting
Hi Friends
What is the procedure to reverse excise duties in case of subcontracting material not returned within 180 days.
Regards
VivekHi,
Go to J1IF13, here use following to reverse challan;
Enter the challan number and year.
Choose "Enter" button
Select Reverse Challan.
Save the challan.
Accounting Entry: -
Cenvat Reversal Dr.
Cenvat Account Cr.
And to Recrediting the CENVAT Account;
1. Enter the challan number and year.
2. Choose "Enter" button
3. Select either of the following options:
- Take Recredit for Receipts
This leaves the challan open for further goods receipts.
- Take Recredit If Any and Complete Challan
This completes the challan and writes off finally any CENVAT credit that you might have been able to claim.
Save the challan.
Accounting Entry: -
Cenvat Account Dr.
Cenvat Reversal Cr.
Note: - For this Account Determination for ETT "57NR" and Subtras Type "01" should be mainatined. -
Reversal of the subcontracting Challan
I have the following doubts:
1) Does the system automatically debits the modvat accounts in case the material is not sent by the subcontractor within 180 days. Do I need to enter the amounts in "Utilization Tab"? In the subcontracting challan the duties are shown as calculated on the posting data tab. In the utilization tab the entry for
RG23A BED
RG23A SED
RG23A AED
RG23A NCD
is editable.
The header is like this
Balance for utilization Modvat Debit
RG23A BED 0.00
RG23A SED 0.00
RG23A AED 0.00 Total
PLA BED 0.00 0.00 BED 0.00
PLA SED 0.00 0.00 AED 0.00
PLA AED 0.00 0.00 SED 0.00
RG23A NCD 0.00 NCCD 0.00
Do I need to enter the values in the utilization tab to debit the modvat accounts or it will be debited as per the entries in "Posting Tab"
2) When does the report J1IFR shows the challan under "Recredit Due" ?
Please help for these 2 questions I have gone through the other posts related to this topic but unable to understand the transactions for reversal/ recreditHi,
1) Does the system automatically debits the modvat accounts in case the material is not sent by the subcontractor within 180 days. Do I need to enter the amounts in "Utilization Tab"? In the subcontracting challan the duties are shown as calculated on the posting data tab. In the utilization tab the entry for
If you send exciable material to subcontractor vendor and you not get your material in 180 days then what happen check following
1) why 180 days first because as per Indian law your excise invoice valid for 180 days to take credit after that you can not take credit
2) when 180 days complete ,then it consider as you sale your material to vendor and you have to create sale invoice along with excise invoice and send to vendor ,system will not do automatically.
3) while doing utilization you can not edit sales value or MM value also ,once outgoing excise invoice d yo subcontractor it will come automatically in utilization.
Regards
Kailas Ugale -
Reverse subcontracting process
Hi,
I have an issue in subcontracting purchase
I have created PO for quantity 10,
Made transfer posting to vendor in MB1B 541 mvt for 10 qty
created subc. challan for material doc.
Made GR for 5 quantity, and challan is reconcilled for 5 qty.
but the issue is the GR made is wrong.
I want to cancel the GR material document now, how to go ahead with reconcilled quantity now. please suggest the solution for this issue.
Regards
MadhuDear,
You have done the GRN wrongly and reconcilled the same with the challan number. Assume the GRN no is 500000123 and the challan number is 20001.
Now the challan qty 20001 is 10 pc
GRN qty is 5 pc, so after reconciliation the challan balance qty is 5 pc. And the status of the challan will become A-assigned.
Now on this situation you have to do the following:
First do the "deletion assignmen" in J1IFQ. ( enter the GRN NO 500000123 and document year).
Then dont press "enter" key or "execute" F8 key.
Just go to the tool menu " Quantity recon" then select " Delete assignment"
Thats all, the relationship between the GRN and Challan is now removed.
Now the challan status will become again to P-Posted.
Now you can cancel the GRN, this is independent only.
Then do the GRN correctly and reconcile properly.
The above is the general proceudre. But since you have done cancellation and challan reversal everything, first tell me these details
What is your challan status - Check in J1IFR ( is it R-reversed, A-Assigned or C-complete)
Then what is the balance qty showing in your challan.
Pls give these details so that I can answer accordingly.
Thanks
Vijay
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