Scrap materail in sub contract or normal rocess
Hi,
I wnt to kknow about 2 scenario
1 : For inhouse production production of material 'A ' we have to issue 1o qy of materail 'B' but after roduction only 7 to 8 qty. of B is use and remaining qty. is sscrap so how to make BOM .
2 : Same sceanario as 1 but with sub ontract
regards,
zafar
CS02 to change BOM
if the first screen shows alternative BOMs then select one and click Item button
if you have no alternative, then you are right at the material tab where you can see the components, select a component and click the puzzle icon (or press F7) to go into the detail.
you are now at screen BOM item all data in tab basic data
the middle section of the screen is about quantity data, here you have two field, one for operation scrap and another one for component scrap.
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Return of scrap from vendor Sub contracting
Dear gurus
Pls advice me on how to map this scenario
we are sending two raw materials to subcontractor for a semi finished product. during the process scrap is also generated which is of value to the organization and they need to receive it from the sub contractor.
now hot to work on this scenario
your valuable advice is greatly appreciated
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JohnHi,
create a material master record for the scrap material. Maintain the scrap material with a negative quantity either in the BOM or in the material components while creating the subcontracting PO.
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Pl. check the following.
1] You will maintain scrap code in BOM with Negative quantity.
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Edited by: Priyanka Paltanwale on Aug 1, 2008 9:29 AM -
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Hi Experts,
I am facing problem while doing Quantity reconcilation of sub-contracting challan.
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Message no. 8I572
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0002 542
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and
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You will have to activate PO number as a required field for 541 mvmt.
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This has not been done, otherwise the error message would appear as the mseg-ebeln would not hold the PO number.
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Project stock - sub-contracting - Challan matl is different from matl doc
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We have sub-contracted with project stock ( Special stock Q ) materials to SC vendor.
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Swap between two different item categories in sales orders for sub-contracting
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Till Purchase order not created, I can change Item category of my sales order line item.
In this case SAP inform by log and once save delete purchase requisition of that line item .
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Sub contracting open oreder quantity
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this is an urgent requirement from, my client
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and for the 500 nos saytem taken fron the purchase order
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sasikanth/vstHi Sasi,
Dependent requirement -1500 Nos
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It is giving message stating that the schedule date for the open P.O - 500 is on Aug to reschedule in May.
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Sub-contracting through Project system.
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Can some one please help me in understanding how Project system (PS) is supporting sub-contracting scenarios.
I am looking for activity sub-contracting and also sub-contracting with Project stock materials.
I am aware of normal sub-contracting through production order and also sub-contracting through MM. I am specifically looking for sub-contracting in PS.
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Sub Contracting scenario - Material Lost
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Material is issued to the vendor against the sub-contracting purchase order. The material is lost in the vendor premises.
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Tanvi SunilHi,
I think you should negotiate with the vendor who covers the loss - if your vendor pays they can issue a credit memo.
As for stock adjustment you should consider:
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Csaba -
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i yes , then how? are there any settings?Hi There
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Hi All,
This is regarding scrap in SC Process with CIN.
I have created a Sub Contracting PO. BoM has two components and also scrap material is entered with negative quantity.
I have transfer posted and created SC Challan.
Next, I have done GR wrt PO referring SC Challan.All things are properly updated, scrap qty is shown with 545+ movement type.
During Reconciliation of SC Challan, scrap item is shown as separate line item, but Scrap generated field is shown as ZERO only. And also system is not saving challan to reconcile, but it is asking assign quantities to scrap item (.i.e it is assuming scrap quantity also has components to be assigned).
Request you to resolve this issue.
Best Reagrds
MadhuHi All,
Since no response from long time. I am closing this issue
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Madhu -
Issue in Sub Contracting Purchase Requisition Urgent!!!
Hiii All,,
I have maintained a two BOM's for a finished material one for In House production and one for Sub contracting the components for the Two BOM's are different.
i have maintained Two Versions for the finished material also.
when i covnvert a planned Order to an Sub Contracting Purchase Requisition alternate BOM doesnt explode. i have also maintained a production version in the Purchase info record. Still the main BOM explodes.
i have to manually change the planned order and give the other production version ie not the Inhouse BOM.
After creating the PR then again i have to go planned order and change to the normal InHouse BOM.
Please Provide me the solution.
Thanx & Regards,
Kumar RayuduHi Kumar,
BOM explosion occurs during MRP run and when you convert into purchase requisition.
If you are using procurement type "X", then logically system does not know whether you will be producing inhouse or go for external procurement.
You may consider to go for MRP areas or manually re-explode the BOM as you are doing now
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Jayakandan -
Sub contract po coproduct issue
Hi All,
In sub contracting process one(raw material) material is supplying to vendor .During single punching the process we are getting 2 products & scrap.For this process we are paying some amount to sub contractor.
While raising the Sub contarctor PO, raised aganist one product .Here iam able to maintain job charges for one product only .But at the same time it should apporinate to coproduct also.
I have maintained a bom for one product (header material) & i maintained second product as coproduct,raw material & scrap .In bom & material master for that material i maintained as coproduct
After maintaing this price is not apporinating to co product.Pls guide me how to solve this issue.
Regards
Vrclose not ansered
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in subcontarcting scenario i have one issue
issue 1:
Materials (both excisable and non excisable) are supplied to
subcontracting vendor.
At this time in 57Fc challan only excisable items are maintained.
But in sap while creating the sub contracting challan it is showing all
excisable items and non-excisable items.
But as per client requirement non-excisable items only should be displayed
while creating /reconciling/completing the sub contracting challan.
issue 2:
when semi finished material is returned back to client by sub contractor
some raw material is still with the vendor.
while raising sub contracting order to the vendor against the same
material ,system should pop up how much raw material left with that
subcontracting vendor .
Kindly give me solution for this scenario.Hello,
All the materials which are declared for excise have to be maintained against the respective chapter ID's. Please refer the settings in excise rate maintenance.i.e j1id.
If only the non excisable items have to be appeared then only maintain the same.
Please check if it helps. As I suppose you will get the help in J1id.
Regarding issue 2:
Is it the scrap that is produced at the the subcontractors level or the main parent raw material which is left??
If scrap is left then that has to be mentioned along with the components provided at the sub contractors level.
If the parent material is left then it has to be checked at the stocks at the subcontractor level and brought back by GR against 101 mvt type.
The BOM has to be defined accordingly. If semi finish of 1 is to be produced by supplying 2 parts of raw material then mentioned only the one which is required. Do not supply additional extra Quantity.
Regards,
Prasanna.
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