Trigger Points in Collective Orders

Hi
Need a help. I am working with collective orders and my requirement..the order should be released automatically once the previous linked order is confirmed.
Could you pl let me know " How can i use the trigger point functionlity in the same. I have worked with the Trigger points where next operation is released after the previos is confirmed but tht is in one routing .
Thanks in advance

You can setup external job (maintain variant in co41) to release the order automatically once the previous order confirms.

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How to trigger creation of collective orders

Hi,
How to trigger the creation of Collective orders.
regards

Hi,
Collective Orders
Use
In a collective order, planned orders or production orders are linked to one another over several production levels. Each order in the collective order has its own order number. If subassemblies are produced directly for superior orders within a production process, without physically entering the warehouse, it is useful to have a representation via collective orders.
The components for which separate production orders are created in the collective order are called directly produced components (see Creating Collective Orders)
Prerequisites
A collective order cannot be created for components that have one of the following indicators set:
· Co-product
· By-product
· Alternative item with strategy 2
· Alternative item with usage probability 0
· Discontinued
· Follow-up material
· Intra material
Features
Collective orders offer the following advantages:
· Integrated view of a production process
Collective orders make it possible to represent different levels of the production process together in the system. The production process can be viewed as an integrated whole.
· Separate order number for every order
Every level in a collective order represents a separate production order/planned order. Every production order/planned order has its own order number. This enables you to process the entire collective order, a subtree in the collective order or an individual order.
· No placements in storage or removals from storage between production levels
Within a collective order stock movements only take place for the leading order (that is, the order that is at the highest production level) and not for directly produced components. This makes it easier to maintain the collective order in comparison with several individual orders. A further advantage is a more realistic representation of the costs of the production process, since subordinate orders can be directly assigned and settled to superior orders.
· Business functions simultaneously for several orders
Certain business transactions can be carried out simultaneously for several orders. Releasing an order that belongs to a collective order has the effect that all the hierarchically subordinate orders are released simultaneously.
· Automatic change to dependent orders
Changes to an order automatically affect dependent orders / components affecting orders. For example, if you change the order quantity in an order then
¡ the relevant quantity changes are automatically made to dependent orders
¡ the requirements quantity of the directly produced component is automatically changed.
In the collective order, you also have the option of manufacturing directly produced material in a different plant to the planning plant.
· Set status in leading order
If you make changes in subordinate orders that have an affect on the status, then the system sets the corresponding status in the order header of the leading order in the collective order as follows:
u2013 CFCO Confirmation in collective order
u2013 GMCO Goods movements in collective order
u2013 RLNE Release taken place in network
In this way you are informed about changes in the whole collective order.
· Reading master data
You can copy the routing data and BOM data to the order again. You can find more information in Read master data.
Example
You want to produce a pump. The BOM for the pump contains a pressure regulating valve and a spiral casing. You want to enter these two components in separate production orders, but you do not want them to be posted to stock.
You set the special procurement type to direct production in the material master record for the pressure regulating valve and the spiral casing, so that production occurs using a collective order.
When you create a production order for the pump, a collective order is automatically created, which contains subordinate production orders for the pressure regulating valve and the spiral casing.
Creation of Collective Orders
Use
Collective orders are only created if the special procurement type is set to direct production in the components for which the separate production orders are to be created (materials planning area in the material master).
In the standard system, 52 is the special procurement type for direct production (that is, for components that are produced within a collective order).
To create a collective order, you must use an order type with internal number assignment.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Tejas

Rework order thro' trigger points

Hi,
I am using the trigger point in the routing to create the rework order. The scenario is as below.
1) I confirm the opn 0010 of the original production order with Yield 99 EA and Rework 1 EA.
2) Rework order gets created for the rework qty.
3) I confirm the rework order and set the status to TECO.
4) After rework, I again want to confirm the opn 0010 in the original production order for the balaqnce qty 1 EA. But I am not able to confirm the operation. I need system to update/propose the balance qty. for which rework has been done.
Please guide how to solve this problem.
Thanks,
Sunil

Hi,
The original production order you need to process as it is like 99 nos and you need to confirm all the operations and do the goods receipt. To rework the 1no you are creating the rework order and you are capturing the rework costs and settling this in to the original production order.
This is the way of handling the rework order.
Regards,
V. Suresh

Collective order processing

I have gone through the threads in w.r.t collective order and direct production. the sap help (IDES too) and the ERP documentation. I still cannot trigger get a process order to be directly created for the subcomponent when I convert the parent planned order (superior planned order).
My BOM structure is the standard FERT-HALB-ROH.
I have setup sp proc key 52 for the halb, BOM and recipe are valid and they are linked to a prod ver. I see a DEP req for the FERT material in the HALB's MD04 screen after I run MRP for the FERT.
I know this setup works for production order. I am however trying with "process orders" since this is required for a PI based inventory. Is this possible?

Dear colleague,
Which transaction do you use?
The conversion should be possible.
Please use COR7 and COR8.
we usually recommend not to use PPBICOR8 for collective orders,
because the program flow logic is different from planned order
conversions that do not result in a collective order. For example,
in dialog mode, you usually receive the collective order overview,
in batch input mode (PPBICOR8 is a batch input for COR7), you don't.
PPBICOR8 cannot distinguish between collective orders and non-collective
orders when the batch input is set up for the planned order conversion -
at this point, it is not known if the resulting order will be a
collective order. This is why PPBICOR8 should not be used for
collective orders.
Please apply the attached note 974946 to suppress the pop-up.
If the issue persists, please open a new OSS message with this issue,
thanks and best regards

Different Order Types within a Collective Order

Dear PP Gurus,
I have a requirement for having different order types with in a collective order. For example, in a BOM of 3 levels, the order type for each assembly should be different say ZPP1, ZPP2 and ZPP3.
For this, I have maintained separate production scheduling profiles in each of these assemblies with the respective order types. Also, I have maintained MRP groups separately for each of these materials. Further, in Plant Parameters, no default order type is assigned.
However, when I create the order, the system creates all orders with order type ZPP1 which is for the header material.
As per SAP help, this is possible but I am not able to create collective order with different order types.
Please suggest any SAP Note or configuration changes which I have missed out.
Thanks!
With Regards,
Nitin

Dear Sabine,
Thanks for your reply.
However, as per SAP help, this is possible. Please refer to the link http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/ee/b6532cae8011d19e97080009b0db33/content.htm
In this link, under Pre-reuisites section, in Point 2 it is mentioned
"This indicator is transferred into the order header (master data) of the orders. If there are differing order types within the collective order, the setting of the indicator of the order type of the leading order takes precedence. This indicator is transferred to all lower-level orders and overrides their original indicators."
The above line implies that different order types are possible with in a collective order.
Please suggest some way out.
Thanks!
With Regards,
Nitin

COOIS Capacity report for Collective Order

Hello Expert,
Need your help & assistance. I have an issue related to collective order, COOIS report display for list Capacity.
For one collective order, when I check this COOIS>Capacity report it display only header order detail, not for dependent order.
But for another collective order for same order type & Plant, it display for both header & dependent order.
Please find the attached word doc with screenshot for the steps I am following. Please point out the reason, that I can check so that for first order also it displays both header & dependent orders in the COOIS > Capacity list.

Case:01: Wherin COOIS>Capacity list display only show for header order not dependent order
Case 02:Wherin COOIS>Capacity list display show both for header order & dependent order
Order type & Plant is same in both cases.
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Trigger points is not working

Hi;
I have an order.It has three operations 0010-0020 and 0030.
Operation 0010 has a trigger point which TRIG1
I choise;
- Release succeeding operations is activated
- System status : PCNF-Partially confirmed
- Change: *
- Activate: 2
I release operation 0010 and go to CO11N and partially confirmed the operation.
However the succeeding operations is not released.
Where am I wrong?

Hi,
I guess you have flagged the check box once in trigger point defn, uncheck the same & then proceed.
Regards,
Vivek
Added
If am right you want to trigger a rework order for each PCNF, so in this case, set the Activation indicator to 2, then you can trigger the rework order each time manually.

Change pointer for Sales Order

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Hi Ram,
I don't think so you can use change pointer for sales order changes. Usually, it is done through transaction code<b> NACE</b> - configuring condition for output type.
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Collective order problem

Hi gurus:
      I having a problem when I use collective order, discrible as below:
When I do the confirmation for the last operation of the subordinate order, it does not trigger the auto-GR and auto-GI to the parent order. What can be the possible reason?
      It worked well in past...
      Further, the "Collective order with/without automatic goods movement" indicator is NOT set for the order type we using.
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Dear Vivek:
      Thanks for your kindly reply. Is the tick box you metioned "Coll.order with...." ?
If so, after I flagged it, new problem occur.
The first problem is the settlement receiver of the child order is incorrect . Now , the receiver is the Semi-FG which should be the parent order. But it was right before the change I made.
Another problem is the auto-GR always hold by the system which I can find it in CO1P. It worked well before the change
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BR
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BOM Explosion - special procurement type 52 (collective order)

In BOM explosion, special procurement type -> collective order (52) for the item is considered as phantom assembly. I wish to know the business reason for this. Any help please ??

hi Janardhan,
phantom assembly is the assembly which is not kept in stock rather it consumes directly.
Use of phantom assemblies are as below
Phantom assemblies are assemblies that have their own product structure, but whose assembly does not actually physically exist. The components of the phantom assembly are incorporated directly in the superordinate product. The product structure of the superordinate product contains a reference to the phantom assembly.
example - A car with music system.
During backflush, only the goods movement for the phantom assembly components are posted. The phantom assembly is marked as backflushed but does not trigger any goods movement.
Experts pl correct me if i'm wrong.
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Ref. Operation Set for Trigger Point

Friends,
I m doing Trigger points in CO11N. Production Order quantity is 10. While confirmation yield qty. 7 & rework qty is 3. After saving trigger point function pop up but after pop up of ref. operation set, i m selecting Group and Task list type, system displayed *Ref. operation set ********** is not valid according to selection conditions.*
In CA02 change routing I hav done all settings of trigger points and created Ref. op. set by CA11.
Pl. guide.......

Dear,
Kindly change order type dependent parameters(TCode OPL8), and check routing selection (3 Routing/ref. op. set optional (automatic selection))
and task list type S Reference Operation Set.
check and revert back.
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Edited by: Muhammad Ashfaq on Sep 10, 2011 1:46 PM

Collective Orders with GR & GI for sub-ordinate orders

Hello,
I am lookng for collective Orders where superior order and sub-ordinate ordes can be tagged together and at the sametime, I would like to GR for sub-ordinate Order which trigger Auto GI to superior Order. this feature is not available in collective orders.
why I am looking for GR execution is that GR quantity changes for sub-ordinate order from one order to another order always. it needs to be actual.
any work acound to satisfy this requirement?
Thanks
JK

Hi JK,
I have a doubt that whether this would be a business requirement. Say as per the BoM if there are 3 levels the last level was expected to be produced as 100 UoM but after production run the yield was 98 UoM or 105 UoM then how system will undertsand that it should post the GI of level 3 SFG2 as yield produced from the last Production/ Process order. But at the same time you need to do subsequent adjustment at SFG1 level also.
This is highly dynamic situation thats why when you have multiple level of BoM and at each stage the chances of yield variation is high then its always better to create Production/ Process order of superordinate level of BoM when the lower level are produced, confirmed and available in the stock.
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Trigger point for no. of calls of a router

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we would like to limit the number of calls for a router.
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We would like to inactivate this prototype router and activate the standard router after the prototype router has been called several times.
It's not enough to reduce the validity period as we do not know befor when the third work order one will be started.
Can we set a kind of trigger point depending on the no of calls of a router which starts a workflow (like sending a message or does anything else to inform us that a certian no of calls is reached)?
Thank you!
Anne Mielke
Edited by: Anne-Kristin Mielke on Sep 23, 2008 3:38 PM

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About trigger points

hi
everybody
               i need,as im new to sap
                        wat is trigger points, wats their functions, how they r used
                    plz. explain in details

Dear please see the link given by MSH.
Apart form that, following are the details.
Trigger point as name suggests, to trigger some action, when some thing is not going as per planned activity,
In PP, we use it for creating rework order/operation when during confirmation if you find a product is to be reworked, then we use enter the qty is reworked qty field. System will create rework order or rework operation as per you designed in Trigger point.
Please go through the link...
You need to design the trigger point in CO31, assign it in routing.
How to create in C031...depends your requirement whether you want rework operation or rework order..pl come back what actually you want out of two options so that we can guide.
Edited by: Rajesha Vittal on Jan 13, 2008 1:32 PM

Trigger points

Hi,
I am wondering how to best use trigger points in routings and production orders to insert a rework operation into an existing production order. On a shopfloor rework could happen at any given operation. Does that mean that I have to maintain a trigger point in every single operation of the routing ? That looks like a lot of data to maintain. Is there any other way to "reuse" a trigger point ?
Thanks
GS

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