Unplanned Delivery Costs and Price Variance - Account Determination
Hi,
I am facing the following issue:
My goal is to automatic post the unplanned delivery costs to an account depending on valuation class.
The account should be diferent from the one used in purchase (EIN) post but both values should affect the moving price.
Can we do that?
Thank you for your cooperation
Best Regards
João Fernandes
My take is that you can have or the other, not both.
You configure how the uplanned costs are handled, a) Distributed among invoice Items or b) to a different G/L line.
Path : SPRO>MM>LIV>Incoming Invoice
If you pick, the costs goes to the stock account.
If you pick B, the cost goes to a separate account but it will not affect the item price.
The account is defined in OBYC, for transaction UPF, and it is Valuation class independent.
Hope it helps
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MIRO : Selecting accounts for unplanned delivery cost based on PO type
Hi Experts!
Actually throught the configuration of transaction OBYC (UPF), when I have an unplanned delivery cost, there is an account number that has been configured.
For any type of MM bill (MIRO), all postings are being made on the same account number for unplanned delivery cost.
My client want to define the account number based on the PO type being billed.
Example : For PO of type A, account number for unplanned delivery cost --> XXXXXXX
and For PO of type B, account number for unplanned delivery cost --> YYYYYY Thus overwriting the configuration of OBYC.
I was thinking of doing some configuration using substitution (FI module). That will change automating the account number (BSEG-HKONT).
Do you have any ideas to meet that request ?
Thanking you in advance for your replies.
Regards,
MaheshHi
You can use the BAdI MRM_UDC_DISTRIBUTE to change the distribution of delivery costs' shares across invoice items.
But i am not sure if we can use the same for determining the G/L accounts.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore -
Post unplanned delivery cost to different freight G/L Accounts
Hi,
Regarding the freight costs the business process is at the time Purchase Order creation, the company does not know what is the freight costs that is going to be charged by the vendor. The freight charges will be known when the vendor sends the Invoice. The purchase order contains the materials to be drop shipped by vendor directly to customer or cross dock delivery to company premises.
The business requirement is when the MIRO invoice is posted, user will enter the freight charges at the document header level and that value needs to be split among the PO Line items and needs to be posted to separate Freight Cost G/L Accounts based on the account assignment category. For drop ship items the freight cost to be posted to one G/L Account and for cross dock items it needs to be posted to a different G/L Account. Later on this freight cost to be applied to customer invoice for charging the customer with the vendor freight cost.
The solution option we have considered is to define two statistical freight condition types at PO Level (one to be triggered for Drop ship materials and the other to be for Cross dock items), in the pricing procedure assign two different Account keys to these condition types. At MIRO users enters the freight cost as unplanned delivery cost, write the code in a user exit to split this value among the freight line items of the MIRO invoice. As separate Account keys are assigned to the condition types the values can be posted to separate G/Ls. To bring these values to customer invoice we will develop a custom routine in SD pricing procedure.
Request the experts to let me know if there is any simple way to map this requirement.
Thanks & Regards,
GLN.Hi,
As at the time of the PO you do not know the freight costs and you want to post the freight costs in the MIRO as unplanned delivery costs . and there is no way you have to post as unplanned .
Here your requirements are 1. Post to separate GL accounts and 2. distribution among line items .
However both of your requirements are given with sap standard functionality with the below sap link .
Logistics Invoice Verification (MM-IV-LIV) - SAP Library
check spro--mm--liv--incoming invoice ---configure how unplanned delivery costs are treated .
at the same time when you maintain the condition type for frieght iN PO , they will become the planned delivery costs . if this come in to picture FR/IR account will come into the pictute at GR and IR .
i think your requirement will be partially met . and the coding part may become fuzzy rather to go with the standard.
Regards, -
Unplanned delivery cost account assignment
Dear Friends,
I have configure the transaction key UPF in obyc. Here I have entered Inc/Dec account, but during the MIR7 Simulation, The Unplanned delivery cost is hitting Inventory Account of material.
Can You please suggest, where the issue may be and how to resolve it.
Rgds, Kraheja.Hi,
Check the settings in the below mention path
SPRO-- MM -- Invoice Verification --- Logistics Invoice Verification -- Incoming Invoice --Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted Assign 2 against your company code. It will help you to post in another line item
reagrds -
Configure Unplanned Delivery Cost Account
Hi Experts
Please help me. I want to configure Unplanned Delivery Cost hit Price Diff. G/L account right now its hit Martial A/c. Please let me know where I can do that.
Thanks & Regards,
Hemant MauryaHi Kiran,
Thanks for your reply. In my system we have not maintained any G/L Code in OBYC Unplanned Delivery Cost (UPF). Then what will I do? Please let me know.
Rgds,
Hemant -
Unplanned del cost vs price diff
hi,
may i know when to use unplanned del cost and when to post to price difference during invoice creation in miro?
assuming this is not unplanned cost for planned delivery cost (Indicator: Goods Items/Delivery Costs/Both) but this is goods/service item at the line item where with reference to PO.
so how do i know i need to post to unplanned delivery cost or price difference when there is a difference amount in invoice against PO.
thanksWhen there is difference in unplanned delivery like some freight amount which was not there during the PO creation and GR but due to some reason u have to pay the freight amount to vendor. so his unplanned delivery cost. when u book unplanned delivery cost it is upto u to book the cost to some different gl or distribute the cost propstionatly to all the line item.
Price difference amount is posted first in case of MAP when there is not enough stock to load this amount. so then the cost is book to price difference account. when total stock to invoice is present in system then amount is loaded on material. In case of stanadrd price if the PO price is diffferent then difference in price is loaded in price difference account. -
Unplanned delivery costs in LIV
My company has a requirement to block users from entering the unplanned delivery costs in LIV when entering an invoice.
I have stopped the invoices from posting by setting the config to post a separate line item for the unplanned delivery costs and I have not set up any account determination for the transaction modifier UPF.
Is there a cleaner way to do this? I.e. control the field selection in the LIV document so this field is display only?
Many thanks
PhilHi Ravana,
This depends on how you want to post the Unplanned delivery costs.
Create a validation step at document header level in transaction GGB0. set the Pre-requisite to
BKPF-BLART = 'RE' AND BKPF-WAERS = 'USD'
In the Check enter the following to limit the amount to 20 currency units.
BKPF-FRATH > 20
then enter the message that you want to issue.
Note, you will need to set up a different check for each currency, presumably you will want a different amount for each currency?
Hope this helps.
Cheers -
Distribution of unplanned delivery costs during delivery cost LIV
Hi all,
This clarification is regarding delivery cost LIV - where difference between:
- the amount invoiced by the freight vendor
and
- the amount accrued based on PO
is treated as unplanned delivery cost and is intended to be distributed amongst the line items of the accrued planned delivery cost.
Customizing for the company code - Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted - is set as "Distribute among invoice items".
When we try to post an LIV in regard to the aforesaid scenario [Tax code is with 0% tax], the system returns the following error message:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Balance is not equal to zero: 58.42 EUR
Message no. M8186
Diagnosis
You cannot post the document as the balance is 58.42 EUR.
Procedure
Check the gross invoice amount, the tax amount, the amounts in the items
selected and any unplanned delivery costs in the document header. The
items selected on the item list may not be the same as those in the
invoice.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Also, went through the OSS note 129066 which mentions that Unplanned delivery costs cannot be distributed to the planned delivery costs as of SAP release 4.6C.
Our system is SAP 4.7 and hence we are unable to understand the reason for this error..
Is there any enhancement relevant in this regard?
Can anyone please throw some light on this.
Best Regards,
BhargavThank you for contacting SAP Global Support Center.
It seems you're posting the planned and unplanned delivery cost
simultaneously.
The planned delivery cost and unplanned delivery cost cannot be invoicedtogether when only freight cost is being invoiced.
Unplanned delivery cost and planned delivery cost can be invoiced
together only when you invoice both goods and freight cost.
This is the standard design of the system. Even in customizing for
unplanned delivery cost, the system behavior is designed such a way thatit can be invoiced along with goods only. Both options which we have
given behave similarly except for the posting to account.
Therefore, your system behavior is as per standard design and there
is no error in your system. For this functionality there are no other
workarounds too.
Additionally, Please consider if the workaround below is working.
In order to post unplanned delivery costs with planned delivery costs
the customizing has to be set so that the unplanned delivery costs are
posted to a seperate G/L account rather than distributed amongs line
items.
SPRO
>>Materials Management
>>Logistics Invoice Verification
>>Incoming Invoice
>>Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
"2" Different G/L line
May I ask you to review note 129066. The the validity is from 4.0 to
4.6 C but it is valid for your release also. -
Unplanned Delivery costs in MIRO for different Vendor
I have an annual PO and I invoice it with normal MIRO transaction.
At the same time I have one service which I want to be a unplanned delivery cost for this PO. This service will be assigned to the material account and it is for a different vendor.
Can I do it in MIRO creating only the value in the unplanned delivery cost and insert a different vendor? In OBYC this is assigned to UPF category.
Can you please help me?Hello,
You can use transaction MIRO to do unplanned delivery costs.
You use "Subsequent Debit" and insert the PO number (equal to invoice). The system will show the lines of the PO that were already invoiced and in the tab "Details" you should change the Invoice Party and inser the value of the unplanned delivery costs in the field "Unpl. Del. Csts".
If you don't have the costs in the PO for different vendor you must create like this...with Subsequent Debit. Only if you have planned costs in the PO it is possible to do it invoice and costs in the same document for different vendors otherwise you must have 2 documents (invoice for the material vendor and subsequent debit for the other unplanned costs vendor). -
MIRO unplanned delivery cost -- to seperate a/c
Hi ,,
This is regarding Unplanned delivery cost
In config we selected Unplanned delivery cost post to separate account
Business Scenario: There are 5 different unplanned costs and each must be directed to separate a/c . At the moment in legacy system they are choosing desired a/c in each case different case
As i understood in Standard SAP we can only direct unplanned delivery cost to one a/c only [OBYC --> UPF], Can above requirement can be achieved by any means?
Thanks in advanceHi
Thanks for the reply ..
In SPRO i choose posting unplanned delivery cost to option ''Different G/L line'
When i go to MIRO, in header 'Details' Tab, i can enter unplanned delivery cost but G/L field grayed, we cant enter desired a/c manually. more over This G/L a/c is GR/IR account
Where we can enter G/L account? to which unplanned delivery cost can be posted
Edited by: sasibhushan334 on May 25, 2010 9:06 PM -
SAP cancellation goods receipt after posting unplanned delivery cost
Dear all,
I created one SAP purchase order, quantity 10 pcs, net price = 10 usd for one pc. Invoice receipt & goods receipts is done. When goods receipt, accounting movement as following:
debit stock account: 100
credit GR/IR: 100
Invoice receipt as following:
credit AP: 100
debit GRIR: 100
After that I had another invoice for unplanned delivery cost: 10 usd
its accounting movement is:
credit AP: 10
debit stock account: 10
After receiving invoice for unplanned delivery cost I must cancel goods receipt document, the SAP system has accounting movement as follow:
credit stock: 110
debit GRIR: 110
But my customer want that it must be accounted as below:
credit stock: 100
debit GRIR: 110
credit XXX: 10
HOW CAN I DO FOR THIS SITUATION????? PLEASE HELP!!!!!Thanks Chandra Shekhar!
But when I did as you suggested (In SPRO Goto MM-LIV- Incoming Invoice- Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted here against the company code put the option 2. Configure your system to post the unplanned delivery costs separately.)
Subsequent debit for unplanned delivery cost as below:
Credit AP: 10
Debit Unplan. delivery cost: 10
when I cancel goods receipt, its accounting document as follow:
Credit stock: 100
Debit GRIR: 100
HOWEVER, my customer want that Subsequent debit for unplanned delivery cost as below:
Credit AP: 10
Debit stock: 10
Until cancellation for goods receipt (after invoice receipt (100usd) & Subsequent debit for unplanned delivery cost (10 usd). It must be as below:
credit stock: 100
debit GRIR: 110
credit XXX: 10
HOW CAN I DO FOR THIS SITUATION????? PLEASE HELP!!!!! -
GR posted to Price Variance account
Hi Experts,
I have a material whose price control indicator is "V", Moving price is $1, Total Stock is zero, Price Unit is 1, Standard price is 1, Total value is zero in material master.
I have created standard PO with two line items.
Line 10 is for the quantity of 1 PC at the rate of $100 per PC.
Line 20 is for the quantity of 1 PC at the rate of $100 per PC. Additionally line 20 is account assigned Q "Proj. make-to-order". No other differences.
I have posted GR for line 10. Accounting details are Stock account $100 and GR/IR clearing account $100.
I have posted GR for line 20. Accounting details are Stock account $1, GR/IR clearing account $100 and Price variance account $99.
Any guess why the system posted line 20 in price variance account?
Thanks,
RanjithHi,
I have a material whose price control indicator is "V", Moving price is $1, Total Stock is zero, Price Unit is 1, Standard price is 1, Total value is zero in material master.
its indicate that you have two material code price control V and S but situation is that both material don't have stock and price is same 1$
Now when you do MIG) for second material which has price control S and Po price is 100$
means you have price difference of 99$ ( po price -Material price)
so it will price difference account and its SAP standard
check following sap link also with example
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/a8/b994b2452b11d189430000e829fbbd/content.htm]
Regards
Kailas Ugale -
Limiting value for unplanned delivery cost
Hi,
I want to set up a limiting value for unplanned delivery cost ( Say the unplanned delivery cost should not exceed 10% of the total invoice value ).
How to achieve this functionality.
Regards,
R. Dillibabu.Hello,
There are no checks for unplanned delivery cost and you should explore the possibility of user exits to implement this functionality.
Cheers ! -
Question on unplanned delivery costs need to go to GL account ????
Hello
I have a question regarding unplanned deliver costs. I am a FI analyst Can you please explain my how I can solve my problem . My user wants unplanned delivery costs to go in to the GL account .
In MM account determination GL account is set up but when I am doing MIRO
. I am putting total amount in amount field and freight costs in unplanned field under detail section.
When I simulate it gives me tax code related warning when I hit enter it credit vendor and debits GR/IR clearing and some debit to inventory account but not to freight account,
Whats the problem. Can someone explain me :
1) What do I need to do to make it go to GL account ( account is set up but what is tax code related error . how do I fix that,
2) How does unplanned delivery costs work if I have tax, discount and freight.
3) Is tax calculated off total amount (inventory + freight) and discount too. How can I prevent that so that my tax is calculated just on inventory amount?
4) DO I have to put total in amount field (meaning inventory amount + fright ) or not .
I will be grateful if someone can guide me towards right direction. Please give me a detailed answer. How does it work???
Thanks
Kavita Reddyin standard setting the freight amount gets debit in the stock or inventoy account and gets credit in the fright accoutn at the time fo gr so it means the amount of frieght is gettting invenotrised
now at the time of IV IN MIRO SYSTEM CREDITS THE VENDOR ACCOUNT AND DEBITS THE GR/IR account
if u want to settele the planned delivery cost then select the laout variant for the planned delivery at item level
or in case if u want to make use of the unplanned delivery cost then u r doing the right step
but as u simulate the g/l accounts sytem will debit the inventory or stock account for it rather then frieght account (i belive so )
as the uplanned delivery cost may be getting inventorised that is added to the material price
and as u said u dont want to have tax calulated on the unplanned delivery cost then i suggest u to post it as subsequent debit and there do not make use of the claulate tax option or do the direct posting for the g/l account option -
G/L Account for Unplanned Delivery cost.
Hi,
I have a requirement to distribute the Unplanned Delivery cost to different G/L accounts based on the material type of the item.
Is there any User exit or standard setting to solve this.
Thanks & regards,
MaruthuHi
Unplanned delivery costs can be trigerred by customizing the the account assignemnts in OBYC under UPD transaction key.
For trigerring different G/L accounts based on the Material type, use Enhancement LMR1M002- customer exit EXIT_SAPLKONT_011.
In that you need to determine the G/L account based on account category refernce & Event key UPF.
You need to take help of ABAPErs for the same
Award points if useful
Thanks & regards
Kishore
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