WF10 Collective Order Split

Hi all,
I am having a scenario where I need your help. I am creating Collective Orders from WF10. I am supposed to have a split of Collective Orders after 900 articles which is not working.Illustration is below :
STO 1 : 500 articles
STO 2 : 500 articles
Expected outcome : 2 Collective orders : 1 having 900 articles and other having 100 articles.
Actual outcome : 1 Collective order with 1000 articles (split didn't work)
I want your help to find out why the split is not working or as to where I can check. I am new in this, so kindly suggest me .
Thanks.
Edited by: abhishek_g on Jan 8, 2012 6:32 PM

Hi yal
In general for GI to header material it will look for item material stock. You cannot do prod of header material with out completing the prod of item material of BOM. So you have to cofirm HALB prod order first , do GR for prod . then only FERT material can be prod.
For Direc prod Special procurement key 52. This is possible.
You can do all at a time
Regards
J . Saravan

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