Rounding in Production order

Hi all,
In our production orders some of them have few quantities produced. If 10 PCE
of componants are required with a scrap of 10%, SAP proposes a backflush
quantity of 10,1 PCE rounded to 11 PCE. It means a difference of 0,9 between
real consumption and backflush proposition.
How can I round correctly 10.1 PCE to 10 PCE instead of 11 PCE in this case.
First I added working quantity UN which deals with numeric for the composant
and work with UN instead of PCE.
I tried to customized rounding profile in MRP2, working with Tcode OWD1 for
examples, maintain rouding profile and unit of measurement rules , thus
creating a rounding down rule of 50% for UN. But it failed.
Can you explain me how to deal with accurate rounding ( from 10.0 UN to 10.4
UN -> rounded to 10 UN, from 10.5 UN to 10.9 UN -> rounded to 11 UN) instead of
the by-default from 10.1 UN to 11 UN -> rounded to 11 UN) ?
Edited by: Sergiy Katerinich on Nov 23, 2011 11:26 AM

Dear,
Actully if you are looking handling scarp material along main product in production order,right? You can arrive a scarp quntiity
then you define it in bill of material as master data.
You have To maintain Negative sign While Creating BOM
it Clearly indicates the BI-Product (like scrap)
No other config or setting required !!!
During Confirmation System will automatically post 531 when you post GR (either thru auto GR or manual GR).
i think it clears your query.
With regards,
Ram

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Edited by: srinivasan ponnurangam on Dec 23, 2011 12:35 AM

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