Sample in IN PROCESS inspection

Gurus,
I need to do sample inspection for INPROCESS inspection.I need to do inspection with inspection point 150.What are the steps?

Hi,
In process with inspection point can be used regular interval of time or regular interval of qty.
You have mentioned 150 insp point in recipe its ok but still you need to do setting in recipe .Go to operation in recipe Now select your phase line item where you have given regular qty inspction .at bottom their is 0ne icon QM data Operation QM (This icon is exatly right side of MIC icon ),click their put their qty related radio button on ,give qty ,Unit of material .say for scenario 50 kg .If process order is of 500 Kg then system will allow you take result every 50 kg QTY i.e you can take here 10 results Give valuation as per your reqmnt in same screen then save the recipe & cheke
Regards
SANIL
Watch below link
Re: Inspection point 150
Re: Quantity based Inspection points
Regards
SANIL
Edited by: Sanil Vadke on Mar 17, 2010 12:54 PM

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[Kindly refer the link herewith|Inspection point] wherein the importance of inspection point is mentioned.
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I mean if you will enter 100 (STD SAP), system will plan the inspection, UD , Quality score procedure etc etc according to the freely defined inspection points.
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Dear,
1. Setting up inprocess inspection
for inprocess REM you have to maintained inspection type 13 in material master. and select task list. for that you have to maintained inspection point in your rate routing for ex for partial lot quantity based.
2. GR Inspection from production
then you go for result recording for inspection point and do the reporting point backflushed through result recording of every inspection point.
3. At what stage the QM lot is generated .
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