What's up with Creative tech support???

I sent them an email detailing my problem. I started with the problem that my Zen V plus was in recovery mode and nothing was working (reboot, reset button) went to web site and used the recovery tool located there. Did not change anything, it'sdid not work, tried it again and then got the message on my MP3 that there was a firmware problem. My PC now doesn't regognize the MP3 player. The reply I got back from Creative tech support was try the reboot option from the recovery menu.
What part of - I tried it and it didn't work and now the only thing on the screen is "firmware problem" don't they understand.
Why don't they have a li've chat for tech support. I'm wondering why I bought a Creative lab MP3 player

I did get back to them with exact details of what I did. What I tried per the suggestions on the web site for trouble shooting the problem. They responded back with the EXACT SAME LIST I told them I already tried.
I was in recovery mode
tried the reboot option - nothing
tried the clean up option - nothing
tried the recovery tool from web site - nothing
tried to reload OS and now the PC doesn't reconize the MP3 player
tried all the options suggeted for getting PC to recognize MP3 player as web site suggests and NOTHING WORKS
explained that to tech support and I get instructions for things I ALREADY TRIED.
Again, why is there no li've chat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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