Clarification regarding burden schedule,cost base,cost type with example

Hi,
can you please explain burden schedule,cost base,cost type ,burden cost code with example. how its taking part with oracle costing.

Hi
You might want to review Oracle Projects Costing User Guide.
Chapter 3 there has a good overview, explanations and examples
Dina

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Regarding multiple schedule lines in sales order with same date

Hi All,
we create the Orders from RFC and the orders are going to Multiple Schedule lines for the same date.
period       delivery date          ordered quan       confirmed quantity
D     10/11/2007                10                    0
D     10/11/2007                 0                     10
here for the same date in first line it is not confirming and in the second line it is confirming the quantity for the same date.
On what conditions it is possible??????
Any one have the solution for this Please send it to me [email protected]
Regards,
Prasad

Just check the schedule line details i.e go to schedule line---shipping. You will find that although the del. date is same in both the case but the timings were different e.g material availability time etc will be different in both these lines. So though the dates may be same its time difference that's causing the second schedule line.
Reward points if useful

Urgent:Calculating Burden Cost even after disabling the Burden Schedule

Hello Guys,
Can any one help me on this query,
Version 12.1.3
Business was calculating raw and burden cost before,Now we are Importing Raw Cost from Third Party System and does not want to add burden cost to these transactions.After Importing we are running PRC:Distribute and create burden transactions.It taking the burden muliplier in burden schedule and adding to the transactions.
We have end dated the effective date for burden schedule with 1-Jan-2000.But we still find that it's burdening the transactions after 1-Jan-2000.
We have not defined any burden override at Project and Task Level.
Is their any option left out to disable the burdening for a project.
Regards,
satish
Edited by: 874738 on Oct 11, 2012 9:13 PM

Hello
In first case ideally it should stop burdening but strange if it is not !!!.
Ny ways try attaching absolute burden hierarchy and runing compile burden procedure. > If not work try keeping multiplier as 0 > or try removing expenditure types in burden structure > compile > try ur luck !!!
if that nothing works then raise the SR with Oracle..
Ny ways a question in my mind...Y r u runing the PRC:Distribute and create burden transactions procedure when u dont want to burdent the transactions?
All the Best
Thanks

Shipment Cost: Group Condition Type calculated on a special weight...

Here is the scenario: A shipment (truck) combines multiple deliveries, grouped on a stage when same destination (happens often).
A condition per LB is to be calculated on the cumulated weight per destination (per stage) BUT not simply on the gross weight, but on the heavier of 2 special weights: the business here uses a special formula according to the packaging, and it gives 2 weights (stored in Z fields of LIKP), an actual weight and a cubic weight.
The purpose is to identify for each delivery the heavier weight and to use cumulated the weight across the deliveries to the same destination to calculate the per CWT cost.
This is my first issue: the condition type is defined at Delivery calculation base, Calculation Type Multi-dimensional, and as a group condition). How do I define to use the cumulated of each delivery heavier weight ? In the Scale for condition type view, I used the scale basis D Gross Weight (which is not right..), there is also a field for a Scale Base Value formula, I wondered if that is what I should use..
My 2d issue: once the cost is calculated, I have to re-distribute it on the deliveries as per the proportion of their heavier weight compared to the total weight used for the calculationShould that be an alternate Condition Base Value formula in the pricing procedure (where xkwert would be.the heavier weight.would that be then a new Z field to be filled in by the user exit determing the heavier value) ??
Thanks a lot, it is a tough one, I know...who is the best ever shipment cost pricing consultant ? !

Hi Guys
Unfortunately I do not think that you will get an answer now. Either your question is not simple or we do not know.
So in the interest of keeping the Forum tidy and easier to surf through could you please close your thread and either try one of the other forums or try another post. I do not think that most people will bother to look this far back anymore.
Sorry I cannot help as I would if I could.
Regards
Frenchy.

Decesion of Costing base COPA over Account base

Dear Gurus,
I have read the defination of costing based and account based copa and understood the conceptual part of it.
On what basis does a a particular business determines that whether they will have to go for costing or account based copa or both ? In other words what are the parameter that I have to keep in mind before I suggest any of the copa method to the business?
Thanks

Hi
Costing based COPA is always preferred over Acct Based COPA (ABC), for the following reasons
Costing based vs. Account based copa (ABC)
a. Account based copa uses transaction tables and hence affects performance of CO transactions
b. Estimated values not possible in ABC (Stat Values)
c. Reports based on line items not possible in ABC
d. Actual Top Down distribution not available in ABC
e. Revaluation of actual data to plan data is not available in ABC
f. No key figure schemes are available in ABC
g. COGS breakup cant be achieved in ABC
Explanation on (b) - Using stat values, you can take tax values also to COPA.. i.e. you create a Stat cond type with 100% condition record on Sale Tax Cond Type... Hence, you can take tax values to COPA
If you use ABC, you cant use Stat Values.. And tax account being a balance sheet account cant be taken to COPA
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Ajay M

Master record for cost center/activity type

Hi all;
How create a master record between an cost center and activity type?
Thank you

Hi
You can create master data between cost center / activity type.
You can link the two by planning for activity qty the combination of a cost center / activity type in KP26. Then you do a detailed planning for costs for the cost center / activity type / cost element in KP06.
I hope it is clear..
Regards,
Suraj

Table for cost center / activity type prices

Can someone give me the table name where cost center/activity type prices are stored?
Regards,
Manohar

hi,
for cost centers
table name = CSKSZ
field name = KOSTL
Activity prices
table name = RKPLN
field name = TKF
HOPE IT HELPS
regards
sayeed

CATS INTEGRATION WITH PP AND PM MODULE ( TO FIND ACTUAL MANPOWER COSTING THROUGH ACTIVITY TYPE)

Hi Experts,
We have a scenario like, Client wants to track the actual manpower costing through activity type ( Ex: How much hours an employee worked on a particular work center to produce an “X” product, So that his actual cost should be loaded on that product.
We have employee ( 1. Staff 2. Worker 3. Contract labor employee and apprentice from third party roll and staff and worker we plan to go with negative time management and for contract labor and apprentice will go with through cats.
Since we are not going to run the payroll for contract labor employee and apprentice, we just maintaining the employee data as a group ( Ex: Group A,B,C etc.. Each group consists 20 or 30 employees, According to system each group as one employee and according to us each group consists as 20 or 30 employee.
The Activity type as well cost center will be created by Co module, the same will be assigned in info type 0315, but still i want more input from experts on the same, since i am new to cross application time sheet configuration, could any one help me out to find the actual manpower costing in a better way.
Regards,
Prem

Hi Experts,
Can any one please reply on the same.
How to arrive the exact manpower costing through activity type ?..
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REM profile Product Type - Cost Collector Order Type

Hi all,
I am trying to create a Repetitive Manufacturing Profile, at that time standard Production Type PKMN is automatically arriving from table V_T437S_GES.
and I would like to assign the cost collector order type (self defined) to the REM profile which I am going to create.
where I need to assign the cost collector order type for production type "PKMN" while creating REM profile.
If I copy the exisiting REM profile and I am able to get the cost collector order type that I am able to see in TABLE : T437S (Repetitive Manufacturing Profile Table). If I create the REM profile newly, I am unable to get the cost collector order type in the table T437S.
So please guide to the self defined cost collector order type for newly creating REM profile.
Thanks in Advance

Madhan,
Order type "PKMN", is internally defined by SAP. Forr all cost accounting purpose, we would be using standard order type "RM01" when creating a new product cost collector for material. If required you can create your own order type say "ZM02" using transaction KOT2, please remmember you need to create with order category "05"- Product Cost Collectors.
This new Order type can be used when we are creating product cost collectors for a material.
I really dont find a reason why a new Order type is required to be created. Can you explain why?
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Prasobh

Cost element/activity type planning upload

Hi,
When doing the cost element/activity type planning upload via KP06, can I assign only one characteristic in the element definition level? Because I want to put in the excel upload layout the cost elements, cost centers and activity types. But ECC 6.0 is allowing only one characteristic in the element definition level. Has anyone encountered this problem?
Thanks and best regards,
Thess

Hello,
This is controlled by planning are in your planning profile. You need to use "Cost ctrs: Cost element/activity inputs" planning area for this purpose.
Hope you are conversant with Integrated excel upload.
To do integrated excel upload of cost center plan data.
IMG ==> Controlling ==> Cost Center Accounting ==> Planning ==> Manual Planning User Defined Layouts - Create your own layout or copy from standard layout and change it.
IMG ==> Controlling ==> Cost Center Accounting ==> Planning ==> Define User Defined Planner Profiles
Copy the SAPALL to ZSAPALL. You cannot change SAPALL as it is standard.
In ZSAPALL planner profile, select proper planning area and enter your layout.
Tick Integrate Excel.
Once the popup for KP06 comes, you need enter the data and save it. It would generate the file name.
With the same file name you need upload the plan data by using KP06.
In KP06
Extras ==> Excel Planning ==> Upload
Select the file as prepared in accordance with format at the time of generating the file name.
Hope this solves your problem.
Please let me know if you need futher help.
Regards,
Ravi

Assigning markups on base cost?

Hello -
I am doing a schedule and I am needing to show what the base price is and then two markups on that price. Is there a good way to do this in P6? I have thought about assigning three resources per activity and cost loading it like that, but wasn't sure if someone may have a better insight.
Thank you!

assigning resources to activities with different price/units is the way to go especially if resources are needed (or at least useful) for other functionalities than project activity costing. the downside would be that there is no easy way to import resource price info (e.g. from MS Excel) and/ or calculate one price/unit from base price/unit using markups.
if cost loading your activities is all you need, I would use expenses. the easiest way would be to create one activity with one (or several) expense item(s) attached to it. copy that to the desired number of activities (Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C,Ctrl+V). set expense price/unit (P/U) for each activity to desired base price. Budgeted Expense Cost (BC) is calculated as Budgeted Expense Units (BU) * Expense Price/Unit (P/U)
using BU of 1 you get the base cost. using BU of less/ more than 1 you apply discounts/ markups. you can use fill down in expense window and/or globalchanges to assign custom values or recalculate values for all parameters.
you cannot directly import expense P/U from MS Excel, but you can import BU.
using a P/U of 1 you get base cost (BC = BU*P/U)
you can transfer BU to P/U and reset BU to 1, using a global change such as this:
Then     Parameter     Is     Parameter/Value     Operator     Parameter/Value
     Price / Unit     =     Budgeted Units
And     Budgeted Units     =     1.000
you can increase or decrease with/by x either your P/U or your BU, using a global change such as this:
Then     Parameter     Is     Parameter/Value     Operator     Parameter/Value
     Price / Unit     =     Price / Unit     *     x
best of luck,

Activity Type with cost elements

Hi,
I'm trying to find out whether it is possible to connect activity types with a group or range of cost elements, which should be allocated using activity allocation.
I don't want to allocate all costs gathered on Cost Center, but only a range of cost elements. Can I achieve that using direct activity allocation and if it's possible, how can I do it?
Best wishes,
Karol

Hi Karol,
It is possible to link the cost elements to the activity using the splitting structure in the SPRO of cost center accounting.
First the costs are debited to other cost centers using the plan activity type. At the end of the period when you calculate the actual price of the activity then based on the cost element range assigned to the activity in the splitting structure the actual cost of the cost elements are debited through the activity.
I hope it is clear now.
Regards,
Suraj

Account base , cost base

hi sap gurus
   can anybody clear me about the copa base of account base and cost base , and what are the differences for these both?
   regards
venkatareddy

There are two ways COPA captures data
. Costing based
. Account based
Both use Characteristics to store the data abt info that is updates in COPA
Characteristics (Customers,Sales office,Sales grp,Material number,Strategic business unit,Co code,Profit center,Sales employee,Cont area,Prod hierarchy etc)
Main diff in how the 2 methods store data involves qty and values
Costing based stores values and qty in Value fields
Account based stores them in cost elements (accts) used in FI and rest of CO
Value fields group together similar values and qty
<b>Costing based COPA</b>
1-Costing based COPA allows you to manage sales based on when sales docs update and when data is trans from FI and other CO modules
2- Normally the largest data trans to COPA is from SD billing docs
3-Normal doc flow
        . Sales order
         .Delivery (creates goods issue - debit COGS / credit Inventory)
        . Billing docs (updates A/R, Sales revenue, Disc, Freights etc)
4-costing based COPA, COPA is not updated until billing docs are created
<b>Account based COPA</b>
1-Allows users to reconcile COPA data to FI data
2-According to the accts posted instead of the value fields
3-Data mainly trans from billing docs again
4-Acct based COPA updated during the delivery and creation of billing docs and not
   after itlike costing based
5-Normal doc flow
         1-Sales order
         2-Delivery (COGS is updated in COPA here itself)
        3- Billing docs
plz assign point as way of thanks

Costing varient/Activity types tab

hello gurus,
in costing variant/activity types tab my strategy sequence is 1.plan price for the period and 2.actual price for the period.here my question is from where the system will pickup these prices.please explain this
thanks
rihana

Hi Samaar,
Based on this configuration, system will read the Planned Price or Actual Price of the Activity Types maintained in the recipe.
You can see these Planned Prices & Actual Prices of the Activity Types using T-Code # KSBT
Regards,
Pandu

What is Cost Codes(Expenditure Types) ?

What is Cost Codes(Expenditure Types) ? can anyone provide a detail informtion with an example if possible

Check this link for example on Burdening and Burden cost code.
club-oracle.com/articles/creating-burden-cost-in-project-costing-769/

Clarification regarding burden schedule,cost base,cost type with example

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