Negative planned depreciation this year

Hi all,
When entering acquisitions for this year, we' are getting a negative planned depreciation.
Can anyone assist?
Mohsen

Well I'm trying to reproduce in my demo enviroment - because for normal assets I'm getting a positive depreciation for the rest of the year (which is correct). I'll explain what I mean:
Asset acquired on 1.1.10 @ 10,000
Straight line depreciation @ 120 months
The depreciation for this year (because it's December now) is 1000+ve
This will then reduce the NBV to 9000 when the depreciation runs which is fine.
This is what is happening in my demo system which is correct - and also should be happening at the customer too. But with them, they're basically getting a 1000-ve as opposed to 1000+ve - so it'll end up appreciating the value instead!
We just cannot see why this is happening...
Mohsen

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