HP DV7 Hinge Fail

I purchased a DV7 – 7030us, on July 3, 2012 from Amazon.com.  A few months after the warranty period was over I began experiencing problems with the hinges.  That problem continued to progress to the point where the left hinge is now entirely out of the case and it is apparent that the right hinge will soon follow.  I can provide photos.
I did a bit of research on the web and found that hinge problems are common with models of this type but that there has not been a recall, nor has a general warranty extension been issued by HP.
My previous laptop was also an HP, a DV9920, and it too had hinge failure, to the degree that I purchased aftermarket hinges and made the repair myself.  Ultimately that computer was retired because the power connection failed.
It is surprising to me that a company of the size and sophistication of HP would not have addressed the hinge issues long before this.  I have owned many HP products over the years, mostly printers, and found them to be of good quality; but I would like you to provide me with appropriate relief for the current hinge problem, by which I mean that the laptop should be returned to you for repair at your expense.
Please contact me with your proposed solution.
Regards,
Thomas J. Watson
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I  purchased my laptop about 3-4 years ago.  
A few years ago, my computer exhibited the same problem where it looked like the case was being pryed open.  I never really took it apart or did anything since I use it more like a desktop than anything else
Last night I took it apart and found the following:
The right side hinge and support structure is very robust.  The screen hinge attaches to the laptop base through a metal tab on the base (which has a screw insert on the bottom).  The force is distributed very well in this area.  On he left side, I saw that there was no metal support.  The screen metal hinge screws right into a brass looking insert which is just pressed into the plastic base.  On my laptop, the left side insert pulled right out of the plastic, and was basically prying up on both halves of the base, causing the gap when you close it.
When I was trying to rotate the hinges, I found that the left and right hinges took a TON of effort to rotate.  in the closing direction: If the insert is OK, there should be no problems since the hinge is "pushing" itself into the plastic base.  But when you open the laptop, that screw insert wants to be pulled out.  in doing so, it breaks the plastic and causes it to pry the case open, causing the gap.
I think this was an assembly error, not a design problem.  It looks like they intended the right side to bear 90% of the force, while the left side just acts as a pivot.  I think the left hinge stiffness was set way too high from the assembly line.  If you look carefully at the screen hinges, you can see a nut which is covered by the silver looking plastic hinge covers.  You need a 1/4" drive socket set and a 5.5 mm socket.  I was able to do it with a shalow socket, without an extension.
I ended up loosening this nut so you could easily turn it by hand.  Now all the force is taken by the right-side robust hinge, where the left side just acts as a pivot.
I tried to use a metal epoxy in the area, but the stuff I had was too old and didn't bond well.  Hopefully I can find a junk computer and just get the replacement base.
To fix this, you can get a new bottom case for about $100, then loosen the nut on the left hinge so that there is minimal force going through that joint (you should be able to rotate the left hinge without he-man strength).
It also doesn't help that the left side hinge sees the highest temperatures.  The thermal cycling along with the pretty weak cooling system could make that joint more likely to break.  
By the way I took it apart originally becuase my laptop temperatures were crazy high doing non-intensive tasks.  The cooling system was pretty bad.  it only takes a small build-up of dust to block off the exit for the hot air.  Be sure to clean this area if you notice that you can cook an egg on your laptop.

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    Item specifics - Apple Laptops
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    Product Family: PowerBook
    Processor Speed (per Core): 1 GHz
    Screen Size: 15 inch
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    Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4, Tiger
    Memory (RAM): 512 MB
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    Product Identifiers
    Manufacturer Apple
    Model PowerBook G4
    MPN K1201LL/A
    UPC 718908452387
    Processor
    Processor Type PowerPC G4
    Processor Manufacturer Motorola
    Processor Speed 800 MHz
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    Bus Speed 133 MHz
    Display
    Display Tech TFT Active Matrix
    Display Size 15.2 in.
    Display Max. Resolution 1280 x 854
    Hard Drive
    Hard Drive Capacity 40 GB
    Storage Controller Type IDE
    Memory
    Installed RAM 512 MB
    RAM Technology SDRAM
    Max Supported RAM 1 GB
    Installed Cache Memory 1024 KB
    CD / DVD
    CD / DVD Type CD-RW/DVD-ROM
    Optical Drive Read Speed 24x (CD), 8x (DVD)
    Optical Drive Write Speed 8x (CD)
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    Audio
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    Audio Input Type Microphone
    Modem
    Modem Type Fax / Modem
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    Networking
    Networking Type Network Adapter
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    Battery Technology Lithium ion
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    Depth 9.5 in.
    Height 1.02 in.
    Width 13.44 in.
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    Hi sp, and welcome to Apple Discussions.
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    Make sure you get the original install discs, and the Tiger install disc.
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    I am hoping this posts will help others as there are many other posts like it that have been closed due to one reason or another. The stated cases of these HP Laptops having hinge issues after so much time and use is a growing concern and people know the HP name but find out after their purchase that the level of service is not what they expected. Personally, i purchased an HP DV7-4073nr back in October 2010 for school to get my degree. Around a year later, the case was cracking and splitting, and then the dreaded hinge issue came up. Fast forward 4 years later to today and thats where the happy ending finally happens. 
    I sent an IM to an HP support rep (JeffHelp) thinking that i would never hear from anyone again about my problem. Not only did i get a voicemail (never answer 800 numbers) with a case number AND a case manager name, but i also got a case management callback number. after about 30 minutes on the phone I was told my unit (verifying serial number and model number) was way out of warranty as well as end of life/end of service. Luckily, i was talkign to someone who cared enough about living a dispoable lifestyle and helped me not only find the correct part, but was able to apply a very generous discount to the overall cost. 
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    I would like to give a HUGE thank you-shout out to JeffHelp and Terri in the support division for all of your help, the unbelieveable customer service level you both went to and the understanding/concern for follow up that was offered. i am actually looking forward to my parts hoping they fix the problem and being in the support industry, i DEFINITELY think that credit is deserved where credit is due, especially in this case. 
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    THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! 
    You have restored my faith in HP Customer Support Division and I have a completely new outlook on your teams for their effort to make things right with me. Keep up the amazing work, we may be far and few inbetween, but those of us who egt that level of support, appreciate every bit of it. 

    I am hoping this posts will help others as there are many other posts like it that have been closed due to one reason or another. The stated cases of these HP Laptops having hinge issues after so much time and use is a growing concern and people know the HP name but find out after their purchase that the level of service is not what they expected. Personally, i purchased an HP DV7-4073nr back in October 2010 for school to get my degree. Around a year later, the case was cracking and splitting, and then the dreaded hinge issue came up. Fast forward 4 years later to today and thats where the happy ending finally happens. 
    I sent an IM to an HP support rep (JeffHelp) thinking that i would never hear from anyone again about my problem. Not only did i get a voicemail (never answer 800 numbers) with a case number AND a case manager name, but i also got a case management callback number. after about 30 minutes on the phone I was told my unit (verifying serial number and model number) was way out of warranty as well as end of life/end of service. Luckily, i was talkign to someone who cared enough about living a dispoable lifestyle and helped me not only find the correct part, but was able to apply a very generous discount to the overall cost. 
    Searching online for parts yeilded a very expensive cost for like new or grade A/B parts so i didnt think that spending over 100.00 dollars Americn for a single base piece was worth that. to my surprise, without even asking or questioning me it was added to my order. I am not going to go into great detail about that transaction but it was a complete jaw dropper and shock to me, and in a very good way.The bottom line to this post is that, yes, the products do obviously have some defects, and yes HP may have chosen to omit those facts after it was obvious and provide desirable compensation or repair for their products. 
    One fact remains that even with parts; computer, car, or otherwise, if you want OEM, you are going to pay the OEM price or risk your money on ebay looking for the best replacement. Take a few minutes and research your exact problem, your part number(s), and what effects the damage may have had on the overall condition of your laptop. Once you have it all figured out, CONTACT HP. Create a thread, send an IM, shoot them an email. Do something. They seem to be caring more about their reputation lately as i have seen many support reps and and mods on this forum replying to customers and members, replies from those people saying how amazing they were treated, the really good options they were offered and how they had some of their faith restored in HP's customer service over the years. 
    I would like to give a HUGE thank you-shout out to JeffHelp and Terri in the support division for all of your help, the unbelieveable customer service level you both went to and the understanding/concern for follow up that was offered. i am actually looking forward to my parts hoping they fix the problem and being in the support industry, i DEFINITELY think that credit is deserved where credit is due, especially in this case. 
    The last thing i would like to say is that support is all about hearing the negative and bad results on a daily basis over and over until you want to jsut walk away shaking your head. I think in the light of all these performance issues their equipment is having, its high time we recognize the team members who go above and beyond to do what it takes to make an HP customer a happy customer! So here is my shout out to Jeff and Terri. 
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! 
    You have restored my faith in HP Customer Support Division and I have a completely new outlook on your teams for their effort to make things right with me. Keep up the amazing work, we may be far and few inbetween, but those of us who egt that level of support, appreciate every bit of it. 

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